DIR Return Create A Forum - Home
---------------------------------------------------------
Bleacher Bums Forum
HTML https://bbf.createaforum.com
---------------------------------------------------------
*****************************************************
DIR Return to: Archives
*****************************************************
#Post#: 61155--------------------------------------------------
Re: 2012 Draft
DIR By: Cactus
Date: March 14, 2012, 2:01 pm
---------------------------------------------------------
--- Quote from: jacey1 link ---
>
> sox were worse?
>
--- End Quote ---
And the Cardinals were 23rd?
#Post#: 61157--------------------------------------------------
Re: 2012 Draft
DIR By: brjones
Date: March 14, 2012, 2:12 pm
---------------------------------------------------------
If you extend the cutoff for that draft article by one year
(2001 draft), it really changes the story for the Cubs. That
was the year Prior (15.8 WAR), Soto (11.7 WAR), and Theriot (9
WAR) were all drafted. That would triple their score and put
them somewhere in the middle of the pack.
They wouldn't get credit for them since they were traded, but
Ricky Nolasco (15.4 WAR), Sergio Mitre (3.1 WAR), and Brendan
Harris (2.5 WAR) were also drafted that year. The 2001 draft
was really good for the Cubs.
#Post#: 61312--------------------------------------------------
Re: 2012 Draft
DIR By: StrikeZone
Date: March 14, 2012, 10:45 pm
---------------------------------------------------------
--- Quote from: brjones link ---
>
> If you extend the cutoff for that draft article by one year
(2001 draft), it really changes the story for the Cubs. That
was the year Prior (15.8 WAR), Soto (11.7 WAR), and Theriot (9
WAR) were all drafted. That would triple their score and put
them somewhere in the middle of the pack.
>
> They wouldn't get credit for them since they were traded, but
Ricky Nolasco (15.4 WAR), Sergio Mitre (3.1 WAR), and Brendan
Harris (2.5 WAR) were also drafted that year. The 2001 draft
was really good for the Cubs.
>
--- End Quote ---
So good that they apparently quit trying immediately afterwards.
#Post#: 64937--------------------------------------------------
Re: 2012 Draft
DIR By: Dave23
Date: April 4, 2012, 11:52 am
---------------------------------------------------------
Condolences to the family of Stephen Gant...horrible, horrible
tragedy...
#Post#: 64953--------------------------------------------------
Re: 2012 Draft
DIR By: CurtOne
Date: April 4, 2012, 12:22 pm
---------------------------------------------------------
Wow. That is very sad. Speculation as to what took him to the
edge, Dave?
#Post#: 64956--------------------------------------------------
Re: 2012 Draft
DIR By: Dave23
Date: April 4, 2012, 12:24 pm
---------------------------------------------------------
Nothing yet...kid had a bright future...
#Post#: 66481--------------------------------------------------
Re: 2012 Draft
DIR By: JR
Date: April 11, 2012, 10:17 am
---------------------------------------------------------
BA has updated the draft list for the first three rounds of the
2012 draft, and also includes bonus pools for each team in 2012.
(By the way, would anyone know if these bonus pools are
strictly for the draft, or do they include international players
as well?)
HTML http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/draft/draft-basics/2012/2613180.html
The Cubs are drafting 6th overall and also have first round
supplemental picks at #43 for Aramis Ramirez and #56 for Carlos
Pena. We also have a $7,933,900 bonus pool.
#Post#: 66503--------------------------------------------------
Re: 2012 Draft
DIR By: Cubsin
Date: April 11, 2012, 1:24 pm
---------------------------------------------------------
JR, there's a separate bonus limit for international signings. I
think it's around $2.8 million for each team for 2012.
The Cubs' $7.9 million pool is for rounds 1-10 of the Rule 4
draft only (12 picks), but decreases if there are any unsigned
picks. For the later rounds, any bonus over $50,000 counts
against the pool. They can also exceed their pool number by 5%
before the penalties kick in.
If they sign all of their Rule 4 picks and use all of their
international bonus pool, the Cubs could spend around $11
million without incurring any penalties.
#Post#: 66894--------------------------------------------------
Re: 2012 Draft
DIR By: grrrrlacher
Date: April 13, 2012, 7:50 am
---------------------------------------------------------
FYI here is Keith Laws top 10.
Big Board
1
Byron Buxton
CF
6-1
175
H.S.
Analysis: There's a broad consensus around Buxton as the best
player in this draft and a legitimate No. 1 overall pick, as he
earns comparisons to a number of other players drafted in that
top spot. He has all tools, an 80 runner on the 20-80 scouting
scale with an 80 arm (reportedly 95-98 mph off the mound last
week) and big future power. But he's playing against poor high
school competition in rural Georgia and has yet to homer this
spring, so he's not without his risks.
2
Mike Zunino
C
6-2
215
Analysis: A true catcher who has an unorthodox style at the
plate but hits, uses the whole field and has power is a pretty
valuable commodity, and he carries less risk than the three
high-upside pitchers ranked right behind him. Most scouts seem
to think he doesn't get past Seattle at No. 3.
3
Mark Appel
RHP
6-5
215
Analysis: The stuff is there, and the results are better, but
the lack of deception in his delivery combined with a habit of
leaving pitches (especially his changeup) up in the zone make
him more hittable than a guy with this stuff should be.
4
Kyle Zimmer
RHP
6-4
220
Analysis: Zimmer has less of a track record than Appel but as
much velocity with a better present breaking ball. He's a former
position player who fields his position well but isn't as
advanced a pitcher as Appel is. His velocity was down in his
last start, sitting 91 mph and topping out at 93, which bears
watching this upcoming weekend.
5
Carlos Correa
SS
6-4
190
Analysis: On track to be the highest-drafted Puerto Rican player
in history as an athletic 17-year-old who projects to hit and
hit for power but probably ends up at third base in pro ball.
For comparison, he has more offensive upside than Francisco
Lindor, who was drafted with the eighth pick last year in a
stronger crop. Correa's also a dark horse to go No. 1 overall.
6
Kevin Gausman
RHP
6-4
185
LSU
Analysis: He's up to 99 mph on a pretty regular basis with an
above-average changeup, but he's showing only a fringy curveball
when he'd probably be better suited to throwing a slider.
7
Deven Marrero
SS
6-1
194
Zunino
Analysis: He's really struggling at the plate this year, not
just in terms of results but he is showing a lack of effort that
has the area scouts confused since Marrero's makeup was always
one of his strengths. I still see a plus defender at short
who'll hit for average and has a high probability of being a
decent big leaguer. I've heard Pittsburgh at No. 8 might be his
floor.
8
Albert Almora
OF
6-2
170
Harvard-Westlake
Analysis: One of the best defensive center fielders to come out
of the high school ranks, Almora has great feel for hitting and
a simple swing with the potential to hit for power in the
future.
9
Max Fried
LHP
6-3
170
Analysis: Owner of perhaps the best left-handed curveball in the
draft with a very competitive nature and good feel for pitching
that helps him pitch above his grade-55 fastball.
10
Matt Smoral
LHP
6-8
225
Analysis: The Solon, Ohio, product is out for the spring after
suffering a stress fracture in his foot while pitching on a
makeshift mound on a football field a few weeks ago, but scouts
have seen enough of his easy 60 fastball/60 slider combo that I
think he'll go in the top-20 picks even without giving scouts
more looks before June.
#Post#: 66895--------------------------------------------------
Re: 2012 Draft
DIR By: JR
Date: April 13, 2012, 7:52 am
---------------------------------------------------------
But he's playing against poor high school competition in rural
Georgia and has yet to homer this spring, so he's not without
his risks.
If you're the potential #1 overall pick from high school and
you're playing mediocre rural high school competition, how have
you not hit one home run yet?
*****************************************************
Page 2 of 92
DIR Previous Page
DIR Next Page