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Re: 2022 Chicago Bears
By: navigator Date: January 14, 2022, 7:24 am
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Boogie, I am in the same boat as you. That is why I would lean
toward an offensive minded HC. Personally I would love to see
Harbaugh and Fangio back together.
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Re: 2022 Chicago Bears
By: Sportster Date: January 14, 2022, 8:43 am
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Bears4- great post and agree with ya. We've had loads of
optimism for ages now and nothing ever comes of it. It is
definately drying me up. I'm not nearly as into the Bears as I
used to be. It really sucks because I like football but when
this stupid team just keeps doing the dumbest crap year after
year it wears on ya. Decades of this is just too much. I'm not a
Cubs fan with eternal patience. It's either time to get the
thing figured out or cut bait and I'm about at the cut bait
stage....
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Re: 2022 Chicago Bears
By: boogie Date: January 14, 2022, 8:43 am
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I just read that Flores went thru 4 OC in 3 years. I am kind of
putting him on the bottom of my list now.
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Re: 2022 Chicago Bears
By: octagon Date: January 14, 2022, 9:17 am
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Harbaugh is hiring coaches at Michigan. I think he's staying
there.
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Re: 2022 Chicago Bears
By: boogie Date: January 14, 2022, 2:02 pm
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Not sure how much of this is correct, but it kinda makes a lot
of sense to me:
In 2018, former Bears quarterback Mitchell Trubisky was a
Pro-Bowl alternate and former head coach Matt Nagy was awarded
Coach of the Year. It was a season that felt magical, as the
Bears went 12-4 and won the NFC North. It was a match made by
the football gods – or so we thought.
The Bears had a young quarterback in his second season and the
hot coordinator turned head coach. Everything was going right.
Trubisky wasn’t putting up the same stats as Patrick Mahomes,
but the team was successful enough where it wasn’t the media’s
biggest story.
The story was, Nagy is a genius who turned Trubisky’s struggling
rookie season into a fantastic second year. It was comparable to
two teams. The 2017 Rams or 2017 Eagles. All three teams had
young offensive coaches with young rising quarterbacks.
Funny enough, in 2021, all three quarterbacks, Trubisky, Goff,
and Wentz, played on different teams. But where did things go
wrong for Nagy and Trubisky? How far does the divide go?
Where it all started
According to Adam Jahns and Kevin Fishbain of The Athletic, it
goes as far back as 2019. Though Trubisky wasn’t officially
benched until Week 3 of the 2020 season, the quarterback and
head coach weren’t getting along as early as Week 3 of 2019.
The world was introduced to both Nagy’s frustration with
Trubisky early in the 2019 season, where he chewed him out
during a Monday Night Football game against Washington. It’s
fair to assume the two might have had issues prior to that game.
It just wasn’t highlighted until it was seen in prime time.
It was a big story, but both Nagy and Trubisky assured the media
that there was no problem between the two.
“I have a heated side to me, and that’s OK. Mitch does, too,”
Nagy said referring to the incident. “It’s because we care.”
Trubisky stuck up for his coach saying, “I love it. I love it. I
got fired up. That’s what you want from your head coach. You
want passion.”
Everything was fine, right? No.
The rift deepens
As the Bears continued to struggle in 2019, Trubisky played
through a torn left labrum. He wore a harness to protect his
shoulder and even admitted after the season that it was
uncomfortable, and he believed it impacted his accuracy, for the
worse.
Here’s where the story gets interesting. Trubisky was supposed
to meet with Nagy to discuss the 2019 season once it concluded.
Trubisky had notes of what he wanted to discuss about the
offense. A source told The Athletic that Nagy was a no-show at
the meeting and “Trubisky left his notes” where the meeting was
supposed to take place.
During the offseason going into the 2020 NFL season, Trubisky
did have surgery to repair his injured left shoulder. In rehab,
he was working on his throwing motions.
It was reported that Trubisky’s trainer saw structural issues
with his right shoulder, which was injured in the 2018 season.
That could have been the root cause of his accuracy issues.
During the offseason, the Bears traded for Nick Foles to add
some competition for Trubisky. Trubisky worked his entire
offseason on fixing both shoulders to get ready for camp.
Trubisky won the quarterback competition, but his leash was very
short.
Trubisky saw the writing on the wall though. It wasn’t only
Foles who would say “this offense isn’t working.” Trubisky was
smart enough to know it, too. He just expressed it a different
way than Foles did.
Another source told The Athletic that Trubisky would be in the
middle of camp and admit that “none of this stuff is working,”
and would point out the issues in the offense. Nagy and his
“trust the process mindset” didn’t work. Trusting the process
highlighted the same offensive issues, that Trubisky, instead of
his coach, was blamed for.
The turning point
In 2020, even at 2-0, “Matt Nagy wasn’t happy,” according to The
Athletic. Trubisky made some throws that annoyed Nagy. They were
considered to be situational “errors” where Nagy wanted the ball
thrown somewhere else.
While watching game film of the Week 2 win against the Giants,
Nagy chewed out Trubisky in front of the entire team.
The play that annoyed Nagy was a three-route concept that went
to tight end, Cole Kmet. The play had Allen Robinson running an
out, Darnell Mooney running a fade, and Tarik Cohen on a swing
route. The play was supposed to end up with Trubisky finding the
fade. Even though this drive ended up in a passing touchdown to
Mooney, Nagy was annoyed.
Robinson was open and instead of hitting him, Trubisky went to
Kmet.
Nagy proceeded to “chastise” Trubisky, calling him “uncoachable”
and not throwing the ball to the right receiver. This reportedly
bummed Trubisky out and bummed out his teammates. Foles stated
that “Mitch was really liked by his teammates.” This could have
been the turning point that turned the locker room against Nagy.
For Trubisky being “uncoachable,” him calling out problems and
trying to fix things with the offense doesn’t agree with Nagy’s
statement. Nagy was done with Trubisky. The quarterback wanted
to find success in Chicago and fix things, but it wasn’t mutual.
A fresh start
Trubisky, when joining the Bills, said it was nice to be
somewhere where he was wanted. Some fans took that as a jab at
the Bears, but really, it was a jab at how Nagy treated him.
Trubisky wasn’t taken seriously by Nagy. He wasn’t wanted. Nagy
failed Trubisky, it wasn’t the other way around.
Even with his faults, Trubisky cared about finding success with
the Bears. He had a coach that was unapproachable and stubborn.
Missing a meeting with your quarterback, who wanted to make the
offense better, is unacceptable.
So, to the outside world, Trubisky looked like the issue in
Chicago. He was painted as a bust and someone who wasn’t smart
enough to learn Nagy’s offense. Maybe it was just Nagy’s offense
didn’t work.
Nagy is now done coaching in Chicago, and Trubisky is searching
for a second chance to be an NFL starter. In the right spot,
maybe he’ll have success. But under Nagy, no matter how many
seasons they would have had, repeating their 2018 success would
have been likely impossible.
What makes this story even crazy is how Trubisky, when he
returned in 2020 after being benched, saved Nagy’s job for one
more season. He won three of the final four games and got
Chicago into the playoffs. If Foles never got injured, Trubisky
wouldn’t have been back on the field. Without that, Nagy would
have (likely) been fired following the 2020 season.
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Re: 2022 Chicago Bears
By: wmljohn Date: January 14, 2022, 3:02 pm
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[quote]What makes this story even crazy is how Trubisky, when he
returned in 2020 after being benched, saved Nagy’s job for one
more season. He won three of the final four games and got
Chicago into the playoffs. If Foles never got injured, Trubisky
wouldn’t have been back on the field. Without that, Nagy would
have (likely) been fired following the 2020 season.[/quote]
I knew it. Trubisky is to blame for this years record. ;)
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Re: 2022 Chicago Bears
By: WshflThinking Date: January 14, 2022, 3:16 pm
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Re: 2022 Chicago Bears
By: JeffH Date: January 14, 2022, 3:20 pm
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Matt Nagy is on a short list of the worst head coaches in NFL
history. Mitchell Trubisky is NOT on a short list of the worst
quarterbacks in NFL history.
Do the math.
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Re: 2022 Chicago Bears
By: Bears4Ever Date: January 14, 2022, 3:37 pm
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I think Mike Glennon may be near the head of that prominent list
of worst QBs in NFL history...... :D
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Re: 2022 Chicago Bears
By: vj Date: January 14, 2022, 3:54 pm
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Todd Collins, the mighty Quinn or [insert yet another horrific
Bear QB here] might have something to say about that...
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