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       #Post#: 35834--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cubs in '12
   DIR By: JeffH
       Date: September 30, 2011, 10:09 pm
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       What model does Ricketts expect to follow with Colletti?
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       Re: Cubs in '12
   DIR By: StrikeZone
       Date: September 30, 2011, 10:39 pm
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       --- Quote from: JeffH link ---
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       > What model does Ricketts expect to follow with Colletti?
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       The Ford Edsel?
       #Post#: 35966--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cubs in '12
   DIR By: brjones
       Date: October 2, 2011, 1:25 pm
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       This sounds like tampering, so it probably didn't really happen.
       But just FWIW, Ozzie has apparently reached out to Zambrano:
  HTML http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/10/02/ozzie-guillen-has-reached-out-to-big-z-about-joining-marlins/
       #Post#: 35969--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cubs in '12
   DIR By: CurtOne
       Date: October 2, 2011, 1:40 pm
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       Tamper away!
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       Re: Cubs in '12
   DIR By: StrikeZone
       Date: October 2, 2011, 2:01 pm
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       If Ozzie did that, it's a pretty clear case of tampering and his
       punishment should be taking Carlos Zambrano's contract.
       #Post#: 35986--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cubs in '12
   DIR By: CurtOne
       Date: October 2, 2011, 2:03 pm
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       and Soriano's.
       And Silva's if we can get him back.
       #Post#: 36234--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cubs in '12
   DIR By: Cactus
       Date: October 4, 2011, 9:47 am
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       --- Quote from: MLB Trade Rumors ---
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       > Arbitration Eligibles: Chicago Cubs
       >
       >
       > By Tim Dierkes [October 4, 2011 at 7:55am CST]
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       >
       > The Cubs are next in our arbitration eligibles series.
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       >
       >
       >
       - First time: Randy Wells, Blake DeWitt
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       - Second time: Geovany Soto
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       - Third time: Matt Garza, Jeff Baker, Koyie Hill
       >
       >
       > Hill is the most likely non-tender in this group.  However,
       he'd only get a mild raise to $850K, and it's quite possible the
       Cubs keep him around due to defense, familiarity with the
       pitching staff, and other intangibles.
       >
       >
       > Wells ($2.2MM), Soto ($4MM), and Baker ($1.4MM) had
       disappointing seasons, but should be part of the 2012 club.
       DeWitt showed enough promise to be worth $1.2MM.  Garza
       represents the Cubs' headline arbitration case, and we project
       $8.7MM for him.  Jeremy Guthrie and John Danks will be current
       comparables for Garza.  There is not much recent precedent for a
       pitcher with this type of track record to make it to his third
       arbitration year.
       >
       >
       > If the Cubs retain all six of their arbitration eligibles, we
       project $18.4MM in total salary.  Assuming Ryan Dempster
       exercises his player option and Aramis Ramirez doesn't get a new
       contract prior to his option decision, the Cubs have around
       $91MM in 2012 commitments before accounting for minimum salary
       players.  If payroll remains in the $134MM range, the Cubs would
       have around $40MM to spend in 2012 salaries.
       >
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       #Post#: 36236--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cubs in '12
   DIR By: Dave23
       Date: October 4, 2011, 9:57 am
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       <i>Hill is the most likely non-tender in this group.  However,
       he'd only get a mild raise to $850K, and it's quite possible the
       Cubs keep him around due to defense, familiarity with the
       pitching staff, and other intangibles.
       </i>Defense...right...
       #Post#: 36237--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cubs in '12
   DIR By: Dave23
       Date: October 4, 2011, 9:59 am
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       That's the equivalent of saying we keep Otto around for
       intelligence...
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       Re: Cubs in '12
   DIR By: Cactus
       Date: October 4, 2011, 12:36 pm
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       --- Quote from: Dave23 link ---
       >
       > Hill is the most likely non-tender in this group.  However,
       he'd only get a mild raise to $850K, and it's quite possible the
       Cubs keep him around due to defense, familiarity with the
       pitching staff, and other intangibles.
       >
       > Defense...right...
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Q. What do Starlin Castro, Matt Garza, and Geovanny Soto have in
       common?
       A.  They each led all of MLB in errors at their position.
       Koyie Hill would have been right up there with Geo had he played
       more games.
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