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       #Post#: 35713--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cubs in '12
       By: brjones Date: September 30, 2011, 7:31 am
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       Yeah, I would love to get Francona.  Unlike Baylor and Baker,
       he's actually a good manager.  And unlike Lou, he's not so old
       that he's likely to lose interest and quit after a tough loss.
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       Re: Cubs in '12
       By: Eastcoastfan Date: September 30, 2011, 9:25 am
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       He's the best.  Pure class as well.  We should be so lucky.
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       Re: Cubs in '12
       By: Cactus Date: September 30, 2011, 9:46 am
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       AC0366103
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       Re: Cubs in '12
       By: Deeg Date: September 30, 2011, 10:26 am
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       Maybe this will piss Epstein off enough that he firmly asks for
       his release, too.  But I suspect (purely my own guess) that
       Epstein could call Ricketts tomorrow and Ricketts wouldn't be
       interested.
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       Re: Cubs in '12
       By: Ron Date: September 30, 2011, 10:47 am
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       [quote author=Cactus link=topic=59.msg35742#msg35742
       date=1317393999]
       AC0366103
       [/quote]
       ?????
       #Post#: 35755--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cubs in '12
       By: Ron Date: September 30, 2011, 11:06 am
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       [quote author=Deeg link=topic=59.msg35744#msg35744
       date=1317396388]
       Maybe this will **** Epstein off enough that he firmly asks for
       his release, too.  But I suspect (purely my own guess) that
       Epstein could call Ricketts tomorrow and Ricketts wouldn't be
       interested.
       [/quote]
       I'm confused.  What is it that would have pissed off Epstein?
       And for what it's worth (which is probably not much), Gordon
       Wittenmeyer of the Sun Times seems convinced that Epstein is
       Rickett's first choice.  That would make a lot sense, since
       Ricketts does seem enamoured with the Red Sox model.  But I see
       no reason to believe that Epstein is interested in leaving the
       Red Sox, besides which his contract is not ending so he doesn't
       even have that choice.
       #Post#: 35798--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cubs in '12
       By: Santo4HofF Date: September 30, 2011, 3:11 pm
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       The year of the cub numbers from the building on sheffield.
       #Post#: 35807--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cubs in '12
       By: mO Date: September 30, 2011, 4:21 pm
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       AC = Anno Catuli "Year of the Cubs"
       03 = years since they won the division
       66 = years since last World Series appearance
       103 = years since last World Series win
       Did I get that right?  I don't when they started doing that, but
       it's kind of morbid now.
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       Re: Cubs in '12
       By: Ron Date: September 30, 2011, 5:14 pm
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       Thanks, mo.
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       Re: Cubs in '12
       By: Deeg Date: September 30, 2011, 9:31 pm
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       [quote author=Ron link=topic=59.msg35755#msg35755
       date=1317398775]
       I'm confused.  What is it that would have ****ed off Epstein?
       And for what it's worth (which is probably not much), Gordon
       Wittenmeyer of the Sun Times seems convinced that Epstein is
       Rickett's first choice.  That would make a lot sense, since
       Ricketts does seem enamoured with the Red Sox model.  But I see
       no reason to believe that Epstein is interested in leaving the
       Red Sox, besides which his contract is not ending so he doesn't
       even have that choice.
       [/quote]
       There's a lot of different "if" factors here.  If Epstein was
       inclined to bring Francona back but ownership pushed him out
       (I've seen conflicting reports) he would certainly be p issed
       off about it.  In terms of Epstein's possible interest in the
       Cubs, well, it's a lot of reading tea leaves.  He's been asked a
       lot, and given a lot of non-denial denials.  Is there interest?
       Who knows.
       As for Ricketts "favoring" Epstein, maybe - but I give
       Wittenmeyer zero credibility.  My guess - and at least I admit
       it's a guess - is that Ricketts may like the Red Sox model when
       it comes to finding ways to make money off an old ballpark, but
       not when it comes to roster management.  No way he wants to be
       near the top of the payroll scale the way Epstein is.  I think
       he wants to win the way Beane did 10 years ago and Friedman does
       now - he thinks if he can build a great farm system and trade
       shrewdly, he can win on the cheap.  And if he can do what
       Oakland and TB did and have a middle-tier payroll instead on one
       of the lowest, he probably thinks he'll win the WS every year.
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