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       #Post#: 444059--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2022 NFL Draft
       By: Grizzlybear34 Date: December 30, 2021, 5:51 am
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       Pace paid the price to go get Fields, and we hope he is the
       right choice.  I would agree, he has shown traits that we
       haven't seen here.  Watching Tua on Monday night, I liked how
       often he went short on early downs, take the 5 yards they are
       giving you.  Keep 2nd and 3rd down more manageable, and make the
       defense defend the whole field.  It also helped Tua a lot having
       a true number 1 receiver.  Mooney is a nice 2/3 receiver.  At
       this stage he is not a Diggs or Thielen - players I think he
       more closely resembles.  You get him that true number 1, and it
       dictates coverage.
       Use Kmet more, we saw what Foles did with him.  I was on the
       side that it was okay to let Olsen go several years ago.  He
       fumbled too much, he was okay.  How wrong was I?  He developed
       and matured and became an all pro in Carolina.  Kmet is still 21
       I believe, his best football is ahead of him.
       #Post#: 444067--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2022 NFL Draft
       By: davebear Date: December 30, 2021, 9:49 am
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       The difference is Tua had receivers open short while Bear
       receivers have coverage all over them defending short passes.  I
       was amazed a couple of weeks ago in the red zone Montgomery
       caught a pass at about the two and was double covered!  Really
       since when is an outlet receiver double covered?  Only the
       Bears.
       #Post#: 444072--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2022 NFL Draft
       By: dallasbear2 Date: December 30, 2021, 1:54 pm
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       [quote author=Grizzlybear34 link=topic=589.msg444059#msg444059
       date=1640865078]
       Pace paid the price to go get Fields, and we hope he is the
       right choice.  I would agree, he has shown traits that we
       haven't seen here.  Watching Tua on Monday night, I liked how
       often he went short on early downs, take the 5 yards they are
       giving you.  Keep 2nd and 3rd down more manageable, and make the
       defense defend the whole field.  It also helped Tua a lot having
       a true number 1 receiver.  Mooney is a nice 2/3 receiver.  At
       this stage he is not a Diggs or Thielen - players I think he
       more closely resembles.  You get him that true number 1, and it
       dictates coverage.
       Use Kmet more, we saw what Foles did with him.  I was on the
       side that it was okay to let Olsen go several years ago.  He
       fumbled too much, he was okay.  How wrong was I?  He developed
       and matured and became an all pro in Carolina.  Kmet is still 21
       I believe, his best football is ahead of him.
       [/quote]
       Rodgers does the same thing.  He's constantly throwing sideways
       and then every once in a while goes for the deep one down the
       sideline or a long one over the middle.
       Mooney definitely needs help - that guy could have been A-Rob
       but for various reasons it didn't work out this year.
       The Bears have under utilized the TE position most of the season
       - especially in the red zone.  For once I'd like see Kmet catch
       something in stride.  Most of his patterns are hooks or outs - a
       few slants and hardly ever anything down the field.
       #Post#: 444105--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2022 NFL Draft
       By: Grizzlybear34 Date: December 31, 2021, 7:27 am
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       [quote author=davebear link=topic=589.msg444067#msg444067
       date=1640879355]
       The difference is Tua had receivers open short while Bear
       receivers have coverage all over them defending short passes.  I
       was amazed a couple of weeks ago in the red zone Montgomery
       caught a pass at about the two and was double covered!  Really
       since when is an outlet receiver double covered?  Only the
       Bears.
       [/quote]
       Poor scheme?
       #Post#: 444109--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2022 NFL Draft
       By: davebear Date: December 31, 2021, 9:59 am
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       I assume so but you would have to see the whole field to know
       what’s going on , not the television shots.
       The new regime can’t come fast enough.
       #Post#: 444135--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2022 NFL Draft
       By: JACKIEJOKEMAN REDUX Date: January 1, 2022, 3:16 pm
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       If we have to clean house in management it better start with
       Ted Phillips.
       Can anybody tell me what has been achieved under his tenure?
       Here's where it gets fun : we ditch Pace and Nagy who built
       what we have today.
       They are familiar with all players.
       Then : everything starts over and here we go again.
       What gets me is they DID get Fields and two tackles to cover
       him.
       It's just BEARRSSE luck that both tackles went to IR.
       Evaluating them became impossible.
       Now both are back and Jenkins is rookie high strung with no
       experience who wants to protect his QB.
       I'll never fault him for a leaning curve.
       Borom seems to be doing what he is drafted for.
       Jesus ... we watch one or two games where these rookies played
       and we have our whole future judgement of them ?
       What if your boss did that to you your third day on the new
       job?
       You wouldn't stand a chance.
       Would you play Daniels at Gaurd or Center?
       Never the less ... it has to be OL in the high order of the
       draft.
       No matter who is in charge.
       It has to translate on the field to protect Fields.
       Yes of course we need more ... but lets start with the basics
       first.
       F.A. and salary cap issues are a topic to be yet discovered.
       #Post#: 444137--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2022 NFL Draft
       By: vj Date: January 1, 2022, 3:53 pm
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       I want Daniels to be resigned and play center.
       #Post#: 444143--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2022 NFL Draft
       By: WshflThinking Date: January 1, 2022, 8:09 pm
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       good idea
       #Post#: 444373--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2022 NFL Draft
       By: JACKIEJOKEMAN REDUX Date: January 6, 2022, 6:30 pm
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       If the whole fuckkin organization is gone ... like Phillips ...
       Pace (whom is rumored to be back) and Nagy ...
       the answer is easy ... who replaces them ?
       How do you do a draft until you know whose in charge ?
       #Post#: 444374--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2022 NFL Draft
       By: WshflThinking Date: January 6, 2022, 7:12 pm
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       If it is Jackie we'll vote for you to be President
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