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       #Post#: 443192--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cubs in '22
   DIR By: Dave23
       Date: December 1, 2021, 11:25 am
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       And it sounds like Freeman’s asking price is 6/180, rather than
       the 6/210 number I floated yesterday…if that 5M/year changes
       anyone’s mind on him…
       #Post#: 443193--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cubs in '22
   DIR By: CUBluejays
       Date: December 1, 2021, 1:33 pm
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       --- Quote from: Dave23 link ---
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       > Any interest in Trevor Story on a 1 year, prove yourself deal?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       No.  Bum shoulder and draft pick/IFA money penalty is too much
       of a risk.  If he didn't have the penalty then sure.
       --- Quote from: Dave23 link ---
       >
       > And it sounds like Freeman’s asking price is 6/180, rather
       than the 6/210 number I floated yesterday…if that 5M/year
       changes anyone’s mind on him…
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I'd rather give Rizzo a deal for less money and years.  Canha
       would have been perfect.
       #Post#: 443194--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cubs in '22
   DIR By: CurtOne
       Date: December 1, 2021, 1:35 pm
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       If we are going to be Loveable Losers 2.0, just go get Rizzo and
       Bryant and sit back and do nothing else.   We won't be any worse
       off.  Might even challenge the division for third.
       #Post#: 443196--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cubs in '22
   DIR By: JeffH
       Date: December 1, 2021, 1:50 pm
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       --- Quote from: JeffH link ---
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       > Of course.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Forgot about the QO.  Blah.  Then no.
       #Post#: 443197--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cubs in '22
   DIR By: brjones
       Date: December 1, 2021, 2:00 pm
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       --- Quote from: Dave23 link ---
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       > And it sounds like Freeman’s asking price is 6/180, rather
       than the 6/210 number I floated yesterday…if that 5M/year
       changes anyone’s mind on him…
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       If they're going to spend big on anyone, they should just go all
       the way and sign Correa.
       If they don't want to spend $350 million but are still itching
       to give someone a nine-figure contract, I think Stroman should
       be the target.
       #Post#: 443198--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cubs in '22
   DIR By: craig
       Date: December 1, 2021, 2:00 pm
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       Is it a given that the DH is going to get abolished?  Or is that
       something the union will only approve in exchange for some other
       concession?  I assume the Sultan of Schwin is going to be given
       a window of opportunity.  With DH, signing a good hitting 1B
       would make sense even with Schwin.  But without, I'd think
       they'd probably plan to just role with Schwin.
       #Post#: 443199--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cubs in '22
   DIR By: brjones
       Date: December 1, 2021, 2:01 pm
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       And speaking of Stroman:
       M@ @MattSpiegel670
       Have heard now from 2 different sources that the Cubs and Marcus
       Stroman are hot and heavy in discussion right now. Would
       absolutely love that signing.
       #Post#: 443200--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cubs in '22
   DIR By: craig
       Date: December 1, 2021, 2:02 pm
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       --- Quote from: brjones link ---
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       > If they're going to spend big on anyone, they should just go
       all the way and sign Correa.
       >
       > If they don't want to spend $350 million but are still itching
       to give someone a nine-figure contract, I think Stroman should
       be the target.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Not sure his price, but Suzuki, Suzuki, Suzuki.  I'd love to
       have them pay market and sign him.
       #Post#: 443201--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cubs in '22
   DIR By: brjones
       Date: December 1, 2021, 2:04 pm
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       --- Quote from: craig link ---
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       > Not sure his price, but Suzuki, Suzuki, Suzuki.  I'd love to
       have them pay market and sign him.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Yeah, that should be a priority too. Fangraphs predictions had
       him getting 4 years at somewhere in the $40-$45 million range,
       so I didn't consider him in the same category as Correa,
       Freeman, and Stroman.
       #Post#: 443202--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cubs in '22
   DIR By: CUBluejays
       Date: December 1, 2021, 2:16 pm
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       --- Quote from: brjones link ---
       >
       > And speaking of Stroman:
       >
       > M@ @MattSpiegel670
       > Have heard now from 2 different sources that the Cubs and
       Marcus Stroman are hot and heavy in discussion right now. Would
       absolutely love that signing.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Blackhawks we need to add speed, doesn't add speed and team
       sucks.
       Cubs we need strike out pitchers, adds Wade Miley and Stroman.
       Marcus Stroman is a perfectly fine pitcher, if this team had
       Bryant/Baez/Rizzo still I'd be excited.  They don't and he's
       going to 31 next year, by the time the Cubs are ready to win
       he's going to be 34/35 and that money can be spent somewhere
       better elserwhere.  If it's short term then great.
       K/9
       Hendricks : 6.51
       Miley: 6.9
       Stroman: 7.94
       League Average 2021: 8.62
       This is a bad idea for a downgraded defense at 2B/SS/1B next
       year.
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