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Re: Cubs Draft 2021
By: JeffH Date: July 12, 2021, 12:55 pm
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There's your contact hitter, CBJ.
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Re: Cubs Draft 2021
By: CUBluejays Date: July 12, 2021, 12:59 pm
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Triantos reclassified from the 2022 class to 2021. He a pop-up
guy that has bat to ball skills and might have some power
potential down the road.
[quote author=craig link=topic=580.msg434660#msg434660
date=1626110520]
You guys with Q/Lester analogies are kinda depressing me,
though.
[/quote]
Lester was a 5 fWAR pitcher that the Cubs gave $150 million
dollars. Quinatana was a 4 fWAR pitcher that the Cubs traded a
ton of capital to get. Getting that with the 21st pick in the
draft would be a really good outcome. That is a front of the
rotation pitcher that you control for maybe 6 years depending on
the next CBA. A lot has to go right to get there, but he's more
than just a safe college guy.
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Re: Cubs Draft 2021
By: craig Date: July 12, 2021, 1:13 pm
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Yes, Blue, if we get the Red Sox/White Sox versions of Lester/Q
out of Wicks, it will be a fantastic pick. And Lester was an
asset pitcher during his first two years with the Cubs, too.
But for his last four years with the Cubs, he was a finesse
overachiever JAG, so recentism kinda makes that Lester what
comes to mind, not the Red Sox guy with the asset stuff. :):).
And yeah, I also get the argument that even the mediocre
2018-2020 versions of Lester and Q were still probably better
than what the typical #22 pick provides. And it's better to get
6 years of average from Hicks than to be paying FA
Lester/Q/Hamels type dollars for average pitching.
But for all of that, I'm going to hold out hope that Wicks has a
lot more stuff and is a lot more good than the last Cubs years
of Lester or Q.
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Re: Cubs Draft 2021
By: craig Date: July 12, 2021, 1:14 pm
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[quote]Longenhagen
Triantos is on tape facing just shy of 350 pitches throughout
the course of the summer/fall 2020 showcase season. He puts 70
of them in play and only swings and misses six times. That’s the
most extreme BIP-to-Whiff ratio I’ve encountered while perusing
players on Synergy. It’s becoming more common for teams to sign
high school players to over-slot deals based largely on
measurable feel for contact. Nick Yorke (Boston), Thomas Saggese
(Texas), Joe Naranjo (Cleveland), and Tyler Freeman (also
Cleveland) are examples that come to mind immediately, and there
are many others. Triantos is in this sort of player bucket. He’s
a below-average athlete and his swing has a non-traditional
look, but he has remarkable feel for contact and enough
physicality for pro ball. He’s a North Carolina commit, too, so
it’s not as though this kid is coming out of absolutely nowhere.
Triantos is a bucket strider whose front side flies open during
his swing, and he swings with a lot of effort. It’s not a
traditional-looking swing and it appears as though Triantos is
making some mechanical concessions to swing as hard as he does,
but he also has fantastic vertical plate coverage and shows no
signs of swing-and-miss issues despite his traditionally unsound
in-the-box footwork.
Like Saggese, Triantos makes routine plays at shortstop but he
isn’t a superlative athlete, and he doesn’t have all that much
room left on a frame that has added a ton of strength between
2019 PG Junior National and the summer of 2020. He also had a
private workout at the Rangers’ stadium. Though he is listed as
a switch-hitter in some places, Triantos only hit right-handed
last summer. I think he’s strictly better than Saggese and more
comparable to Yorke. Yorke got $2.7 million, which I thought was
excessive, but Triantos feels likely to come off the board
fairly early as this type of player is more sought after now
than in the past.[/quote]
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Re: Cubs Draft 2021
By: JeffH Date: July 12, 2021, 1:33 pm
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93 - Drew Gray, HS LHP/OF (drafted as an OF)
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Re: Cubs Draft 2021
By: CUBluejays Date: July 12, 2021, 1:42 pm
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Somebody tweeted that Triantos had 0 strike out as a hitter this
year.
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Re: Cubs Draft 2021
By: craig Date: July 12, 2021, 1:45 pm
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[quote author=JeffH link=topic=580.msg434673#msg434673
date=1626114816]
93 - Drew Gray, HS LHP/OF (drafted as an OF)
[/quote]
Thanks, Jeff, I'd wondered if the Cubs viewed him more as
pitcher or outfielder. The brief mlb report below focuses
primarily on his pitching potential, where he has a high ceiling
but sounds like he's wild and all projection for now. They had
him ranked 179.
It briefly alluded to his hitting, and said he makes good
contact, runs well, and projects possible power. Very slender
young man in the video, just turned 18 in May, so lots of
physical projection left.
HTML https://www.mlb.com/video/2021-draft-drew-gray-lhp?t=mlb-draft
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Re: Cubs Draft 2021
By: Playtwo Date: July 12, 2021, 1:55 pm
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A future Ohtani!
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Re: Cubs Draft 2021
By: JeffH Date: July 12, 2021, 2:07 pm
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123 - Christian Franklin, college OF
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Re: Cubs Draft 2021
By: CUBluejays Date: July 12, 2021, 2:18 pm
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Ian Smith
@FlaSmitty
2021 LHP/OF Drew Gray flashed a plus FB back in October at WWBA,
and even more consistency last night in Vero. Ran it up to 94,
sitting 90-93 with almost 2800RPM(!). CB showed tight shape with
some ugly swings. Uncomfortable ABs. Big night for 2021 LHPs.
#Arkansas commit.
Contact hitter, check. Pitcher with projection, check.
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