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#Post#: 35297--------------------------------------------------
Re: Next GM for the Cubs
DIR By: Ron
Date: September 27, 2011, 4:58 pm
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--- Quote from: Deeg link ---
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> I think the bloom is off the rose with Beane. He can't escape
blame for Oakland's dismal record the last few years. He's a
bright guy and we could do worse, but I'd much, much rather have
Epstein, Friedman or even Cashman.
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Based on what I've read, along with what I think is common
sense, I'll be very surprised if any of those four become the
Cubs' GM.
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Re: Next GM for the Cubs
DIR By: Jes Beard
Date: September 27, 2011, 6:21 pm
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> Rosenthal does do a good job of being on both sides at the
same time.
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A few examples....
1st: Well, we have our first casualty of the Red Sox’s collapse.
Naturally, it’s the Cubs. If ever the Cubs had a chance to hire
Theo Epstein as general manager, that chance probably is
gone..... Then again, this could go the other way, too.
2nd: The Red Sox, if they miss the postseason for the second
straight year, could make a series of impulsive moves....
Boston is an emotional market. Someone — maybe a few someones —
would be held culpable if the Red Sox blow it. But the Sox under
Epstein and owner John Henry have taken great pride in removing
emotion from their decisions.
Reading his column is like watching a tennis match.
#Post#: 35305--------------------------------------------------
Re: Next GM for the Cubs
DIR By: Cactus
Date: September 27, 2011, 7:17 pm
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> According to MLB sources, Andrew Friedman, the brilliant
architect of the Rays' homegrown success, seems more in play in
the Cubs' ongoing search for a general manager than he did a
month ago. He and manager Joe Maddon feel like they're hitting
their heads against a wall in trying to help owner Stuart
Sternberg grow baseball interest in the football-crazed Tampa
Bay area.
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HTML http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/columnists/ct-spt-0928-rogers-cubs-white-sox-chicago--20110928,0,4953916.column
HTML http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/columnists/ct-spt-0928-rogers-cubs-white-sox-chicago--20110928,0,4953916.column
#Post#: 35306--------------------------------------------------
Re: Next GM for the Cubs
DIR By: brjones
Date: September 27, 2011, 7:27 pm
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Is that implying that Joe Maddon could be in play too? A
Friedman and Maddon tandem would be about as good as it gets.
#Post#: 35308--------------------------------------------------
Re: Next GM for the Cubs
DIR By: CurtOne
Date: September 27, 2011, 7:45 pm
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br and I agree on something!
#Post#: 35311--------------------------------------------------
Re: Next GM for the Cubs
DIR By: Jes Beard
Date: September 27, 2011, 8:11 pm
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From the bleachernation link on Billy Beane.
HTML http://www.bleachernation.com/2011/09/27/meet-the-gm-candidates-cheat-sheet-billy-beane/
Desirability: High. With Beane’s background and personality,
it’s impossible to see him not being an upgrade in Chicago.
While he’s running the show in a smaller market, he is always
the subject of intense scrutiny, and has been since the 2003
publication of ‘Moneyball’ (the book). Rather than wilt under
that pressure, he’s flourished.... The A’s have been terrible
for a number of years, and, given Beane’s claim to fame, it’s
hardly fair that he could use ownership’s refusal to spend big
bucks as a shield. His team has not had a winning record in five
years.
I don't know how good Beane is as a GM.... but I have a feeling
that he could sell sh*t sandwiches for $20 per.... so long as he
had sportswriters to sell to.
#Post#: 35432--------------------------------------------------
Re: Next GM for the Cubs
DIR By: ben
Date: September 28, 2011, 4:36 pm
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Well, Jes, according to Jim Bowden, MLB Radio, we're likely
going to find out lots more about Beane in October.
Bowden believes Beane is the front runner for the open Cub
leadership role.
One thing that Beane (and, perhaps, Cub fans) shouldn't feel
great about following the movie, if he does become the new Cub
leader: when Beane was doing deals in the movie, he was
portrayed as very disengenuous, "playing" everyone who would be
"played," certainly including other GMs (some of whom may not
forget how those deal conversations were portrayed in the
movie). I can't imagine the movie will make it easier for
Billy Beane to do deals in the future.
#Post#: 35438--------------------------------------------------
Re: Next GM for the Cubs
DIR By: ticohans
Date: September 28, 2011, 5:09 pm
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right, im sure rival gm's will base their opinion of beane based
on a movie, as opposed to their actual years of personal history
with the guy...
#Post#: 35443--------------------------------------------------
Re: Next GM for the Cubs
DIR By: Deeg
Date: September 28, 2011, 5:41 pm
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Am I the only one who thinks the Beane mystique far, far
outweighs the actual results?
Choosing Beane over Friedman - if both were theoretically
options - would be a similar mistake to hiring Pinella when
Girardi wanted the job.
#Post#: 35446--------------------------------------------------
Re: Next GM for the Cubs
DIR By: CurtOne
Date: September 28, 2011, 5:50 pm
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No, I'm with you, Deeg.
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