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Re: Cubs in '21
By: Bennett Date: November 19, 2020, 3:24 pm
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The 2019 Rule 5 Draft will be held on Thursday, December 12 in
San Diego at the MLB Winter Meetings. To give teams time to
prepare for the draft and decide which prospects they'd like to
target for selection, teams' 40-Man Rosters needed to be
finalized on November 20.
HTML https://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/2020/11/15/21552342/cubs-rule-5-draft-christopher-morel-jerick-suiter
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Re: Cubs in '21
By: Bennett Date: November 19, 2020, 6:17 pm
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MLB.com has a feature naming the one untouchable player for each
club
[quote]Cubs: Ian Happ, INF/OF (age 26)
He was probably the best hitter the Cubs had last year (.866
OPS), and his blossoming is a primary reason they won the
division in 2020. And unlike Kris Bryant, Anthony Rizzo and
Javier Báez, who will be free agents next offseason, Happ is
under club control through 2023.
Last year's pick: Báez[/quote]
HTML https://www.mlb.com/news/each-mlb-team-s-most-untouchable-player
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Re: Cubs in '21
By: brjones Date: November 20, 2020, 5:14 pm
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The Nationals are interested in Bryant:
HTML https://www.bleachernation.com/cubs/2020/11/20/report-nationals-are-considering-a-trade-for-kris-bryant/
Bleacher Nation suggests that Victor Robles or Carter Kieboom
could be the type of player they might be willing to trade for
Bryant, which seems about right at this point. One year of a
star coming off a bad year for a former top prospect who is
looking like a bust (but still has upside) seems pretty fair.
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Re: Cubs in '21
By: Reb Date: November 20, 2020, 5:40 pm
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Robles intentionally bulked up for 2020 and it seems to have
hurt him in all aspects of the game, including his first step
defensively.
Maybe he just needs to learn how to play with the added muscle.
It was a short season in 2020, of course. He's a really
talented player.
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Re: Cubs in '21
By: CUBluejays Date: November 20, 2020, 6:11 pm
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Robles has 200+ games of below average offensive production.
Is Kieboom really any better than Bote?
Yuck.
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Re: Cubs in '21
By: Deeg Date: November 20, 2020, 8:45 pm
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Kieboom and Robles may be flirting with bust status but it’s
probably a fantasy to think you could get either for Bryant
unless you ate most of his contract. He has negative trade
value at the moment, if anything. But it’s only a year since a
lot of Cub fans were targeting Robles as the key piece in a
Bryant trade and the Nats were supposedly refusing. If you
could somehow get him for KB now you’d be crazy not to do it.
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Re: Cubs in '21
By: CUBluejays Date: November 20, 2020, 9:28 pm
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Robles has a wRC+ of 85, Almora has a wRC+ of 81.
I’ll take a second and fifth rounder over that.
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Re: Cubs in '21
By: Reb Date: November 21, 2020, 12:03 am
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Robles had one of the most profound regressions in 2020 that
I’ve seen in a very young and talented position player, maybe
ever.
Of course, it was a short season, which may or may not be a
mitigating factor.
In 2019, Robles was a 4.1 bWAR player in a season that he played
at age 21 until late May when he turned 22. He entered 2019 as
the #4 (Pipeline) and #5 (BP) prospect in baseball (BA had him
at #11).
So, a top 10 overall prospect and a 4 WAR season as a rookie.
That’s pretty good. That’s certainly not Albert Almora.
Saw him quite a bit at Nats Park in 2019 and he caught balls in
shallow CF like crazy with elite anticipation and speed. Showed
some power offensively too.
In 2020, everything went wrong. Got a late start because of
Covid exposure and was much heavier. Poor first step
defensively. Poor contact in the zone offensively and swung at
way too many first pitches out of the zone. Just a disaster
season.
So, I don’t know which guy will show up in 2021. Some folks say,
generally, to throw out the stats in a 60-game season. I
wouldn’t do that but it wasn’t a normal season for anybody. In
2019, Robles got way, way better defensively starting in June,
which is a bit peculiar so maybe he needed more time in 2020.
Maybe it wouldn’t have mattered, who knows.
All of 2020 was peculiar for him. If the 2020 version is the
real guy, I wouldn’t be interested. And, I’m hoping there’s a
way to keep Bryant in any case. But, the 2019 Robles was a
really good player, especially for a rookie, and he has 4 years
of team control.
So, it’s a scouting assessment for the most part if he’s
available in a trade and an especially difficult one, seems to
me.
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Re: Cubs in '21
By: CUBluejays Date: November 21, 2020, 7:05 am
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Robles 4 rWAR was built entirely on defense, he was below
average on offense.
Go take a look at his statcast page, Almora hits the ball harder
and his speed has been declining every year. He doesn’t walk,
doesn’t hit for power and stiles out. I’m not really sure what
people see in him other than a really hot small sample size in
2017.
Let’s just take a look at what the Cubs would be like if they
traded Bryant for Robles. The Cubs are going to want to go play
Happ and the DH isn’t assured so you probably have to non tender
Schwarber or make Robles a short sided platoon. So you get
LF Happ. CF Robles. RF Heyward 3B Bote SS Baez 2B ? 1B Rizzo C
Contreras
That is an ugly offense. Go try and trade for Margot from the
Rays. He’ll provide the same benefits of Robles and won’t cost
you your best player.
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Re: Cubs in '21
By: Deeg Date: November 21, 2020, 7:24 am
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Bryant isn't our best player and hasn't been for at least two
seasons.
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