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Re: Cubs in '21
By: Ron Date: October 3, 2020, 4:57 pm
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I assume for Theo to do that he would want Hoyer to have a
contract well past 2021. I don't know what Hoyer's contractual
status is currently. Under those circumstances, given the last
couple of years, I could see Theo doing that I guess.
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Re: Cubs in '21
By: craig Date: October 3, 2020, 5:34 pm
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Interesting. Easy to think that Theo isn't going to want to do
a rebuild with us. Wouldn't surprise me if he wasn't interested
in moving his career in a different direction from running a
baseball team, anyway? Could stick with Cubs long-term through
another rebuild. Could look for an underachieving big-budget
team; Mets or Angels or somebody like that? Or perhaps he'd
like to take a shot with a small-market franchise, where success
would be credits to leadership brains not bucks? I think he's
talked about enjoying some of the challenges of making it work
with the Padres when he worked there.
But I also wonder whether he wouldn't like to consider maybe
transitioning to something in the social-causes front, and move
away from baseball?
Ron, Theo and Hoyer both have contracts that run through next
year. If I was Ricketts, I'm not sure I'd want to guarantee an
extension for Hoyer at this point to carry it well beyond next
year.
If the condition for Theo stepping away from his 21 salary was
to extend Hoyer for an extra 5-year contract, I'd maybe decline
doing that? It might be a good time to bring in a different
baseball boss than Hoyer, somebody who might have more
experience in player evaluation and a better eye for talent
evaluation?
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Re: Cubs in '21
By: Ron Date: October 3, 2020, 6:09 pm
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I believe Theo has expressed an interest in owning a baseball
team. I'd be surprised if he takes on another role like the one
he had with the Cubs and Red Sox.
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Re: Cubs in '21
By: brjones Date: October 3, 2020, 6:11 pm
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[quote author=craig link=topic=566.msg416709#msg416709
date=1601764493]
But I also wonder whether he wouldn't like to consider maybe
transitioning to something in the social-causes front, and move
away from baseball?
[/quote]
I've wondered for a long time that he's eventually going to get
into politics. It seems to me like he has signaled that from
time to time, both in how he has handled controversies with the
Cubs and in how he acts in his personal life. I think his work
with the Red Sox and Cubs gives him enough name recognition and
credibility to make him competitive in high profile politics
immediately.
I assume he's still very popular in Massachusetts. If Biden wins
next month, Elizabeth Warren will almost certainly be offered a
position in the administration and they'll have a special
election for her seat next year. So if he does have political
aspirations, it wouldn't surprise me wants to re-establish his
residency in Massachusetts as soon as possible. That would
require resigning from the Cubs.
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Re: Cubs in '21
By: Deeg Date: October 3, 2020, 6:50 pm
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If Warren does enter the cabinet, it would be a shock if Kennedy
doesn't get her Senate seat.
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Re: Cubs in '21
By: JR Date: October 3, 2020, 7:34 pm
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[quote author=brjones link=topic=566.msg416713#msg416713
date=1601766681]
I've wondered for a long time that he's eventually going to get
into politics. It seems to me like he has signaled that from
time to time, both in how he has handled controversies with the
Cubs and in how he acts in his personal life. I think his work
with the Red Sox and Cubs gives him enough name recognition and
credibility to make him competitive in high profile politics
immediately.
I assume he's still very popular in Massachusetts. If Biden wins
next month, Elizabeth Warren will almost certainly be offered a
position in the administration and they'll have a special
election for her seat next year. So if he does have political
aspirations, it wouldn't surprise me wants to re-establish his
residency in Massachusetts as soon as possible. That would
require resigning from the Cubs.
[/quote]
Actually I could see him being very successful in politics. He
has a very easy style to him, very good sense of humor, and he’s
very well spoken.
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Re: Cubs in '21
By: CUBluejays Date: October 3, 2020, 7:59 pm
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If Theo moves on instead of just handing the keys to Hoyer I’d
really like to go after the DBacks management team.
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Re: Cubs in '21
By: dogstoothe Date: October 3, 2020, 8:33 pm
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I don’t get this Epstein worrying about Hoyer, what does he care
about Hoyer?
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Re: Cubs in '21
By: Deeg Date: October 3, 2020, 8:57 pm
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[quote author=CUBluejays link=topic=566.msg416720#msg416720
date=1601773155]
If Theo moves on instead of just handing the keys to Hoyer I’d
really like to go after the DBacks management team.
[/quote]
I certainly don’t see any reason why Hoyer should have first
refusal, based on management’s performance over the last four
years.
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Re: Cubs in '21
By: Ron Date: October 4, 2020, 2:54 pm
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I appreciate it when Cub players rave about how much they love
Chicago, playing in Chicago and the Cubs organization. Javy Baez
is the most recent to do so, insisting he really does not want
to play somewhere else.
"I hope I never leave this city in my whole career, but anything
can happen," Báez said after Friday's game. "Hopefully I stay
here my whole career.
"I love the fans, the dedication that they got for this team,
and the other teams in the other sports for Chicago. We'll see
what happens and hopefully I'll stay here.
Báez, who's under contract through next season, and the Cubs
were discussing a contract extension last offseason. He
expressed optimism that talks were progressing in March prior to
baseball's COVID-19 shutdown.
MLB has felt the pandemic's financial impact in this 60-game
season, and the financial outlook for next season and beyond is
hard to predict. Báez feels comfortable in Chicago and with the
Cubs, the only organization he's ever known.
"I'm pretty sure there's not another organization like this
one," he said. "I've never been in another one but I feel like
everybody that comes through here, they don't want to leave."
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And yet, in the end it (virtually) always comes down to the
money. I get that everyone wants to get paid as much as
possible, that's fine. I get that the players are the guys who
are the game, and that they should get their fair share. But IF
it's really true that a player deeply wants to play for the Cubs
(or some other team), then why not be wiling sign for something
below the optimal amount. Given that the budget will be what it
will be, a star player's reluctance to take less than top dollar
restricts the portion available for other players, including
those who might be able to improve the team.
It's not a pro-ownership view to be disappointed that guys like
Baez and Bryant talk a good game when it comes to remaining a
Cub, but (so far) aren't willing to prioritize that over a few
million more above the many, many millions they would make by
signing for a bit less.
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