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       Re: Today's Game 2020
       By: davep Date: September 22, 2020, 10:43 am
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       Most of you may not be old enough to remember Allen Ellis (the
       most underrated Bears corner, in my opinion), but Jaylon Johnson
       reminds me of him in one respect.
       The reports on him were questionable after the draft (the best I
       remember was "not too fast, not too big, but quick to the
       ball").  During his first season the media followed him closely,
       pointing out some mistakes, but generally saying he wasn't as
       bad as they thought.  After that season, you seldom heard
       anything about him.  The reason was that he had become the best
       secondary man on the team, and opposing teams just stopped
       throwing in his direction.  He didn't make a lot of great plays,
       because he was not allowed to make ANY plays (OK, not many
       plays), and there was little reason to mention his name or show
       his replays, since the passes went to the opposite direction.
       Much too early to say, but so far, most replays you see show him
       being a competent corner, and the replays became fewer and fewer
       as the game went on.  I suspect that, barring injuries, the
       Bears got a good one.  Combining him with Fuller is going to
       make a big difference going forward, in my opinion.
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       Re: Today's Game 2020
       By: Grizzlybear34 Date: September 22, 2020, 10:47 am
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       Allen Ellis, Virgil Livers...  there was a white cornerback
       Terry Schmidt?  He was horrible.  Must have been playing
       opposite Allen Ellis, lol
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       Re: Today's Game 2020
       By: dallasbear2 Date: September 22, 2020, 11:32 am
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       I do remember Alan Ellis - #48?  Also had a big thick beard like
       that Houston Rocket player...Harden.   I don't know that Ellis
       was even drafted - maybe in the 13th round or something or a
       free agent, but he was one of the best players on those Bears
       teams in the 70s.
       As for Jaylon Johnson, he is first round talent.  He probably
       slipped because of the shoulder.  He's bigger than Ellis.
       Johnson checks all the boxes at the combine and his pro day, and
       has held up well these last 2 games.  He'll continue to be
       tested, but he and Fuller could be among the top corners in the
       NFL.
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       Re: Today's Game 2020
       By: davebear Date: September 22, 2020, 12:18 pm
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       Please don’t remind me of the 70’s Bears.
       I saw where Johnson had the lowest QBR of any of the corners
       drafted before him
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       Re: Today's Game 2020
       By: dallasbear2 Date: September 22, 2020, 12:45 pm
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       Silent Bears...on defense.
       In the backfield we've seen Fuller, Johnson and Jackson make
       plays, even Bush now.  But what about Gipson?  He's showing up
       in the stat sheet but he's kind of quiet.  He might be doing his
       job and preventing big plays but I hardly hear his name called.
       Barkevious Mingo.  I'll admit I didn't like the signing, but he
       recorded a sack Sunday.  Good for him.  I like it that he take
       snaps while Quinn works back into shape.  Once that happens then
       he can give Mack a rest on the other side.   Pass rushers are so
       hard to find in the NFL - if the Bears can get half a dozen
       sacks and consistent play from him that'll be a huge unexpected
       bonus.
       Ray Robertson-Harris.  Kind of quiet.   He came to the Bears as
       an OLB and was one of my favorite projects.    Bulked up to play
       3-4 DE from 260s to 290.  But now is playing a lot of 4-3 DT.
       He just doesn't have the bulk/frame to play inside - especially
       against the run.
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       Re: Today's Game 2020
       By: WshflThinking Date: September 22, 2020, 3:32 pm
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       Re: Today's Game 2020
       By: davep Date: September 22, 2020, 11:32 pm
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       [quote author=dallasbear2 link=topic=565.msg415508#msg415508
       date=1600792336]
       I do remember Alan Ellis - #48?  Also had a big thick beard like
       that Houston Rocket player...Harden.   I don't know that Ellis
       was even drafted - maybe in the 13th round or something or a
       free agent, but he was one of the best players on those Bears
       teams in the 70s.
       As for Jaylon Johnson, he is first round talent.  He probably
       slipped because of the shoulder.  He's bigger than Ellis.
       Johnson checks all the boxes at the combine and his pro day, and
       has held up well these last 2 games.  He'll continue to be
       tested, but he and Fuller could be among the top corners in the
       NFL.
       [/quote]
       Ellis was the fifth round draft choice in 1973.
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       Re: Today's Game 2020
       By: Pekin Date: September 27, 2020, 1:48 am
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       Re: Today's Game 2020
       By: Pekin Date: September 27, 2020, 12:10 pm
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       We need a kicker.
       #Post#: 415980--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Today's Game 2020
       By: Pekin Date: September 27, 2020, 12:52 pm
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       Bears playing like dogshit on both sides of the ball.
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