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       #Post#: 406529--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cubs Draft 2020
       By: Reb Date: June 11, 2020, 8:19 pm
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       [quote author=CUBluejays link=topic=562.msg406523#msg406523
       date=1591923633]
       Luke Little, 6-8 lefty that might throw 105. Poor control and no
       secondary stuff.
       [/quote]
       BA says above-average slider.
       #Post#: 406532--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cubs Draft 2020
       By: CUBluejays Date: June 11, 2020, 8:47 pm
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       [quote author=Reb link=topic=562.msg406529#msg406529
       date=1591924797]
       BA says above-average slider.
       [/quote]
       If he was throwing 100 mph with and above average slider he’d be
       ranked above Burl. It might flash above average and might get
       there some day. BA also said the spin rates where not all that
       good.
       #Post#: 406533--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cubs Draft 2020
       By: davep Date: June 11, 2020, 8:59 pm
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       Sounds like a project for the pitching lab.  The front office
       must have confidence that it is a worthwhile project.
       There is no doubt that you can not teach velocity to any large
       extent.  It looks as if with the two leftys they drafted today,
       they are going in a different direction.
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       Re: Cubs Draft 2020
       By: Deeg Date: June 11, 2020, 9:26 pm
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       2nd rounder is a tiny lefty named after part of a tree, 4th
       rounder is a hug lefty named "Little".
       #Post#: 406540--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cubs Draft 2020
       By: Reb Date: June 11, 2020, 9:30 pm
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       [quote author=CUBluejays link=topic=562.msg406532#msg406532
       date=1591926470]
       If he was throwing 100 mph with and above average slider he’d be
       ranked above Burl. It might flash above average and might get
       there some day. BA also said the spin rates where not all that
       good.
       [/quote]
       Little is a raw 19 year old with poor control and Burl is the
       top pure reliever in the draft (and perhaps close to the
       majors), so not surprising that the latter drafted higher.
       But, the point is a report that Little has a “above-average”
       slider with bite—-that contradicts notion of “no secondary
       stuff.”
       Maybe you saw Little pitch on a day that BA is unaware of.
       #Post#: 406542--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cubs Draft 2020
       By: Deeg Date: June 11, 2020, 9:35 pm
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       Koen Moreno, prep RHP in the 5th round.  Not a super well-known
       kid but this is a nice gamble in the 5th round.  I see a nice
       combo of stuff and intangibles here, considerable upside.  Gonna
       be a tough sign though.
       #Post#: 406544--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cubs Draft 2020
       By: CUBluejays Date: June 11, 2020, 9:37 pm
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       Cubs finally picked a guy that might actually be able to be a
       starting pitcher.
       To me this draft is just a typical Cubs draft. The did great in
       the first round and then after that it was kinda like I guess.
       The need starting pitching and it is the strength of the draft
       and they don’t take anybody until the 5th round. He a 3 sport
       high schooler so hopefully there is untapped potential there.
       The got 2 hard throwing lefties with control issues that profile
       as relievers and a LF that mashes the ball.
       The Cubs have done well under Espstein after the first when the
       go after high school kids with potential, Cease, Steele, Davis,
       and  Roederer. The Cubs have done that so rarely though and it
       is just frustrating to see the same thing over and over and
       expecting a different result.  When Epstein contract is up I
       hope they go after the D-Backs leadership.
       #Post#: 406545--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cubs Draft 2020
       By: chgojhawk Date: June 11, 2020, 9:46 pm
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       [quote author=Reb link=topic=562.msg406540#msg406540
       date=1591929016]
       Little is a raw 19 year old with poor control and Burl is the
       top pure reliever in the draft (and perhaps close to the
       majors), so not surprising that the latter drafted higher.
       But, the point is a report that Little has a “above-average”
       slider with bite—-that contradicts notion of “no secondary
       stuff.”
       Maybe you saw Little pitch on a day that BA is unaware of.
       [/quote]
       We already waste a 1st rounder on Little a couple years ago?
       Why did we re-draft him?
       #Post#: 406546--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cubs Draft 2020
       By: Deeg Date: June 11, 2020, 9:48 pm
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       [quote author=CUBluejays link=topic=562.msg406544#msg406544
       date=1591929457]
       The Cubs have done well under Espstein after the first when the
       go after high school kids with potential, Cease, Steele, Davis,
       and  Roederer. The Cubs have done that so rarely though and it
       is just frustrating to see the same thing over and over and
       expecting a different result.  When Epstein contract is up I
       hope they go after the D-Backs leadership.
       [font=verdana][[/font][/quote]
       I think it's tough to say the Cubs have done well doing that
       when those guys have collectively played 0 innings for them.
       And three of them 0 innings period.
       #Post#: 406549--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cubs Draft 2020
       By: CUBluejays Date: June 11, 2020, 10:04 pm
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       Cease was used in a trade and was a top 100 prospect.
       Davis is a top 100 prospect.
       Steele has the same reliever potential was guys we spent 2 and
       4th round picks on today, we with the added bonus of he could
       actually start.
       Roederer was talent.
       It beats the likes of Dewees, Stinnent, Zastrynzy, etc... that
       they usually break out in the second round.
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