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       #Post#: 404797--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2020 Chicago Bears
   DIR By: Grizzlybear34
       Date: May 7, 2020, 11:07 am
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       > I think y'all are blind. He looks like a guy that doesn't have
       enough game reps... Shocker. That's what he is.
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       I am not saying that Trubisky deserves no blame.  I was
       responding to Chifan, basically in agreement.  Nagy was
       bullheaded and went away from what works too often, offensive
       line was awful, and the only reliable weapon that the Bears had
       on offense was Robinson.  Trubisky looked worse than the prior
       year.  Was he the sole offender to our offense?  No.  Is it
       being painted that way more so in the media?  Absolutely.  All 4
       components caused our offensive ineptitude.
       Does that fix it for you?
       Now we are going to have some tight ends, but generally, not
       much was done.  Will changing coaches, an offseason of Nagy self
       reflection (plug in either Green Bay game and the Dallas game),
       a journeyman QB, fix everything?
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       Re: 2020 Chicago Bears
   DIR By: chifaninva
       Date: May 7, 2020, 12:37 pm
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       > I am not saying that Trubisky deserves no blame.  I was
       responding to Chifan, basically in agreement.  Nagy was
       bullheaded and went away from what works too often, offensive
       line was awful, and the only reliable weapon that the Bears had
       on offense was Robinson.  Trubisky looked worse than the prior
       year.  Was he the sole offender to our offense?  No.  Is it
       being painted that way more so in the media?  Absolutely.  All 4
       components caused our offensive ineptitude.
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       > Does that fix it for you?
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       > Now we are going to have some tight ends, but generally, not
       much was done.  Will changing coaches, an offseason of Nagy self
       reflection (plug in either Green Bay game and the Dallas game),
       a journeyman QB, fix everything?
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       I agree with ya Griz.. Sh!t show last season and most want to
       blame Trubisky..
       #Post#: 404806--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2020 Chicago Bears
   DIR By: WshflThinking
       Date: May 7, 2020, 12:47 pm
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       Trubisky was a mess after he injured his left shoulder. He was
       never accurate after he returned. It had to affect his throwing.
       Is he to blame? I think the blame should be on him this year if
       he begins
       the season throwing the same way. With me its a wait and see
       situation.
       #Post#: 404810--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2020 Chicago Bears
   DIR By: Sportster
       Date: May 7, 2020, 1:54 pm
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       I believe with Trubisky his accuracy is very suspect. Even with
       time he has trouble hitting open recievers. Last season was hard
       to gauge entirely due to the offensive line playing very
       offensively. He's a true enigma though. He'll hit a guy for a
       huge gain with a accurate throw but then miss open guys or be
       WAY off on a throw. I do think it's time to move on from him,
       personally, but just knowing the crazy history of this team,
       he'll go somewhere else and blossom.....watch....
       #Post#: 404815--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2020 Chicago Bears
   DIR By: davebear
       Date: May 7, 2020, 5:10 pm
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       1st 4 games Lions, Giants, Falcons, Colts.... all very winnable.
       #Post#: 404816--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2020 Chicago Bears
   DIR By: chifaninva
       Date: May 7, 2020, 7:16 pm
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       Trubisky has success when the game is on the line in the last
       minute. I think some of his problem (besides the obvious), he
       thinks too much and can't through his reads. He's not going to
       carry a team. Most QB's don't, only a few. He's athletic and has
       the arm. But I would agree, if he can't show something this
       upcoming season then it's time for a change..
       #Post#: 404819--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2020 Chicago Bears
   DIR By: davebear
       Date: May 7, 2020, 10:11 pm
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       Yesterday I watched some of the condensed games from last year.
       Trubisky could hit pin point pass after pin point pass then
       under throw the receiver in the end zone for an int.
       Maybe he needs a coach who doesn't hug it out with him.
       Parcells, Walsh, Holmgren, Sean Payton to name a few didn't baby
       talk their QB's after big mistakes and they ended up with some
       great ones.
       #Post#: 404822--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2020 Chicago Bears
   DIR By: dallasbear2
       Date: May 7, 2020, 10:57 pm
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       I can defend Trubisky and I can just as easily blame him.
       For example, DeShaun Watson has been sacked over 100 times the
       last 2 seasons.  But his average QB rating is 100 over those
       same 2 seasons.
       On the other hand, Watson had 3 pretty good receives in Hopkins,
       Fuller and Stills.  And he had a running game.  A 1000 yard
       rusher and the 9th best running attack averaging 4.6 yards per
       carry.
       Trubisky has to be given a fair chance to beat out Foles, if he
       can do that and win the starting job then he just has to win
       games.   No more excuses.
       #Post#: 404823--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2020 Chicago Bears
   DIR By: dallasbear2
       Date: May 7, 2020, 11:08 pm
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       > Yesterday I watched some of the condensed games from last
       year.
       >
       > Trubisky could hit pin point pass after pin point pass then
       under throw the receiver in the end zone for an int.
       >
       > Maybe he needs a coach who doesn't hug it out with him.
       >
       > Parcells, Walsh, Holmgren, Sean Payton to name a few didn't
       baby talk their QB's after big mistakes and they ended up with
       some great ones.
       >
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       Yeah, maybe Nagy is too close to Trubisky.  Sometimes I think
       Trubisky is so fearful of making a mistake and disappointing
       Nagy that it slows down his decision making.
       
       #Post#: 404830--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2020 Chicago Bears
   DIR By: WshflThinking
       Date: May 8, 2020, 8:30 am
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       There is some validity to that. I think the thing thats been
       ignored is the affect that left shoulder played on Trubisky's
       accuracy after he came back. I thought I heard he had to wear
       some harness
       under his jersey. If so that had to affect his throwing.
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