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#Post#: 389184--------------------------------------------------
Re: Cubs in '20
By: dev Date: October 3, 2019, 11:25 am
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callaway gone
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Re: Cubs in '20
By: craig Date: October 3, 2019, 12:49 pm
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[quote author=CurtOne link=topic=546.msg389169#msg389169
date=1570114965]
.. when Theo is talking about accountability and stuff that he's
referring to Russell. He might be, but I doubt it. Everything
I've read is that Russell has done almost everything the FO
asked him to do. I think there's something else going on.
Backstabbing, missing signals, swinging for the fences with
winning run at third and one out, being clueless about game
situations in one's hitting approach, nursing injuries...there's
more to it. [/quote]
Yes, I assume Russell did as asked for counseling, and yes to
your main point that there's more to it. If it's just Russell,
they could let him go and and problem is solved.
Russell is the face of the franchise for accountability issues,
both on-field and off. On field, there was the stuff about not
being focused defensively, having mental errors, AND not even
having complete command of the signs. That's a
professionalism/preparation issue. And down to Iowa he went.
Theo made a reference to "consequences", and used wording as if
he thought everybody could see that somebody had been held
accountable for something. What "consequences" was Theo alluding
to in his head there? Russell getting sent to the minors, but
what else? And if players experienced consequences, were they
for performance, or for behavior issues of some other kind?
Edwards, Almora, and Montgomery were bad players sent away; are
those performance consequences that Theo was alluding to?
I kinda don't think so, because great club leadership doesn't
make bad players good. What leadership is supposed to improve
are issues of behavior, attitude, professionalism, preparation,
practice habits, focus, etc..
So agree with Curt, there's more to it than Russell, and you
mention some possibilities.
#Post#: 389193--------------------------------------------------
Re: Cubs in '20
By: Reb Date: October 3, 2019, 1:37 pm
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[quote author=Deeg link=topic=546.msg389151#msg389151
date=1570087920]
Yeah, he should do like Ross and lobby through the national
media.
[/quote]
Theo has said Ross is a candidate. Has Theo said Girardi is a
candidate?
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Re: Cubs in '20
By: wmljohn Date: October 3, 2019, 2:00 pm
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[quote]Quote from: craig on October 02, 2019, 09:47:52 am
Thanks, dihard. That's helpful to hear.
Cubs admin have a reputation for being really
smart/intellectual. I'd like to get somebody who's really
intelligent and smart. Maddon is, no question there. But I'm
not sure all of their managerial hires, or batting-coach hires,
have necessarily mirrored that. Think they have maybe tended to
go more for style. Elan, the word Theo used several times.
Soft skills.
I hope they get somebody who's got good soft skills, but who's
also an intelligent and thoughtful guy too.
[quote]That rules out WJ[/quote][/quote]
Ouch. That hurt.
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Re: Cubs in '20
By: JeffH Date: October 3, 2019, 3:17 pm
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One thing I'd like to see the new manager do differently from
Joe is to establish more of a set everyday lineup. Not so much
a set batting order as much as a set 8 who - outside of a
straight platoon - are your "everyday" guys.
I think the superflexibility of the roster sometimes was
overused and acted as a detriment to player development.
If you believe in a guy, you have to give him an extended
opportunity at some point to prove whether he can or can't do
it. This playing once every 3-4 days is tough on anyone but
much more so a young player.
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Re: Cubs in '20
By: Dave23 Date: October 3, 2019, 5:15 pm
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I couldn't agree more.
I hated the scheduled off days...and the idea of giving a player
a day off after having a big game the day before just because
"it was scheduled"...that's crap...
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Re: Cubs in '20
By: Deeg Date: October 3, 2019, 5:19 pm
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In Maddon’s defense, it would have been easier to stick with a
consistent lineup if he had more guys who were performing on a
consistent basis.
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Re: Cubs in '20
By: JeffH Date: October 3, 2019, 5:54 pm
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Deeg, there's truth in that, for sure. On the other hand, he
might have had more guys perform consistently if he had let them
get into some kind of rhythm.
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Re: Cubs in '20
By: Deeg Date: October 3, 2019, 6:37 pm
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[quote author=JeffH link=topic=546.msg389208#msg389208
date=1570143269]
Deeg, there's truth in that, for sure. On the other hand, he
might have had more guys perform consistently if he had let them
get into some kind of rhythm.
[/quote]
Yeah, maybe it's a chicken and egg scenario to an extent but I
think there's truth in both - they're not mutually exclusive.
It also seems like the Cubs built a roster that was more than
usually matchup-dependent.
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Re: Cubs in '20
By: Reb Date: October 3, 2019, 9:12 pm
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[quote author=JeffH link=topic=546.msg389197#msg389197
date=1570133835]
One thing I'd like to see the new manager do differently from
Joe is to establish more of a set everyday lineup. Not so much
a set batting order as much as a set 8 who - outside of a
straight platoon - are your "everyday" guys.
I think the superflexibility of the roster sometimes was
overused and acted as a detriment to player development.
If you believe in a guy, you have to give him an extended
opportunity at some point to prove whether he can or can't do
it. This playing once every 3-4 days is tough on anyone but
much more so a young player.
[/quote]
Who would you have played more as an “everyday” guy?
Only guy I can think of is Bote but seemed to me his usage was
fine.
We had five everyday guys: Rizzo, Bryant, Baez, Heyward,
Schwarber (137 GS). Nobody would start Schwarber against certain
lefties(at least until Aug/Sept). Then, there’s
Contreras/Caratini, which is six.
When Castellanos arrived, he played everyday.
Seems to me that nobody Cubs had could be an “everyday” guy at
the other two positions.
At 2B, Russell started season suspended, Descalso didn't hit,
and Zobrist went home. Happ was in minors and Russell too for a
stretch after the suspension. Bote—see above.
In CF, Almora didn’t hit. Ideally, he would have been an
everyday guy but don’t think anybody would argue Almora deserved
to play more. So, Heyward had to play half-time in CF and almost
all the time when Castellanos arrived.
What am I missing?
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