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Re: Cubs Draft 2019
By: CUBluejays Date: June 4, 2019, 7:40 am
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Thank goc, Fresno State was eliminated so Jensen won’t get
abused.
Cronin is interesting. A hard throwing lefty reliever would be
nice.
I’d like to see the Cubs get an upside high school arm similar
to Franklin a couple times.
Jensen has so many things that can go wrong with him that will
prevent him from ever reaching the majors, but at least it
wasn’t average fastball guy.
Strumpf seems like a very Cubs pick. College hitter that will
give you a professional AB.
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Re: Cubs Draft 2019
By: Ron Date: June 4, 2019, 7:42 am
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[quote author=Deeg link=topic=543.msg377771#msg377771
date=1559626037]
Strumpf was a pretty shiny prospect heading into the season, but
took a huge step backwards - sophomore year stellar, junior year
mediocre. Not much glove and can't run, so he's a hit or bust
proposition, pretty much. A LIAB pick to be sure - gambling
that he finds whatever he had last season, and lost.
[/quote]
I know nothing about Strumpf, but the Fangraphs ratings posted
by CUBluejays doesn't seem consistent with "not much glove and
can't run." Or am I misunderstanding their ratings system?
Fangraphs
#51,Hit 30/55, Game Power 25/40, Raw Power 50/50, Speed 50/50,
Field 45/50, Arm 50/50
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Re: Cubs Draft 2019
By: JeffH Date: June 4, 2019, 8:06 am
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The latter.
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Re: Cubs Draft 2019
By: ticohans Date: June 4, 2019, 8:10 am
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I think 50 is average. Projected to be average on speed,
fielding, and arm doesn’t sound like nothing.
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Re: Cubs Draft 2019
By: JeffH Date: June 4, 2019, 8:20 am
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Ron, it's a 20-80 scouting scale, with 20 being worst and 80
being best.
The number before the slash is the player's rating as of now.
The number after the slash is the player's projected rating.
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Re: Cubs Draft 2019
By: Dave23 Date: June 4, 2019, 8:43 am
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[quote author=method link=topic=543.msg377777#msg377777
date=1559645786]
Dave when did you coach him, he looks fantastic, kid was
painting corners with his breaker the other day.
[/quote]
14 year old competitive ball, Memphis Tigers...his parents drove
him down from Lexington every weekend to play for us. He was our
ace...not our fastest guy, but pitchability was off the charts,
and the best pickoff move anyone in the age group had ever seen.
He threw a 6 inning perfect game in which he struck out 17, and
the opposing coach (a friend of mine) still talks about how
impressive it was to this day (his team was really good as
well).
I remember he used to run foul poles after every start,
religiously...didn't matter if it was noon or midnight. Both he
and his parents had big picture plans, even then...
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Re: Cubs Draft 2019
By: craig Date: June 4, 2019, 8:47 am
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I read the written ones as an offense/bat prospect. Fangraphs
ranks the two present offense-areas as the bad ones (30 and 25),
and doesn't project them as even potentially becoming very good
(55 and 40); but they view everything else as already perfectly
fine/average.
*Hit 30/55, Game Power 25/40, Raw Power 50/50, Speed 50/50,
Field 45/50, Arm 50/50
Sink or swim with the offense. Doesn't sound like the other
stuff is going to hold him back, *IF* he can hit. There are
lots of 2B and LF opportunities around for an excellent hitter
who fields fine but isn't Javy or Hewyard.
Hope he hits!
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Re: Cubs Draft 2019
By: CUBluejays Date: June 4, 2019, 9:05 am
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The present grades at Fangraphs represent what they think is
statistical profile would be if you brought him up to the majors
today.
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Re: Cubs Draft 2019
By: craig Date: June 4, 2019, 9:47 am
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Right. It's pretty routine with these that hitting and
game-power for players are the present-vs-projected have the big
gaps, and for pitchers the control has the big
present-vs-projected have big gaps. Speed and arm obviously
aren't going to change a lot. (Although obviously tons of guys
get slower over their careers.)
55-40 aren't really that great or high-ceiling of possible
projections for hitting and game power.
To some degree, I think the scouting things don't necessarily
have as much discrimination as they could or should. If you've
got Baez or Bryant power, maybe you'll score really high there,
or Buxton speed. But from the projections standpoint, it's hard
to get 60's or better; and you rarely get guys scoring <40.
And Fangraphs only goes by 5's. So, seems a whole lot of guys
kind of get clustered in the 45-50-55 areas.
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Re: Cubs Draft 2019
By: JR Date: June 4, 2019, 10:13 am
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[quote author=CUBluejays link=topic=543.msg377725#msg377725
date=1559613699]
Passan tweeted out Matthew Allen who had a $4 million price tag
to the Cubs.
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I'll never understand high school pitchers pricing themselves
out of the first round just so they can go to college. There
are a lot of bad things that can happen to your arm over three
years before you're eligible again.
Maybe the college experience is worth $2.5 million to him, but
boy that's just risky. It just seems like taking the money and
doing college later is just an infinitely smarter move.
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