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       Re: 2018 NFL Draft
   DIR By: WshflThinking
       Date: January 7, 2018, 4:46 pm
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       Interesting:
  HTML https://www.yahoo.com/sports/m/d2c8249a-623a-3c3a-97f9-9b1c2a5dbc5c/ss_2018-nfl-mock-draft%3A-browns.html
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       Re: 2018 NFL Draft
   DIR By: WshflThinking
       Date: January 7, 2018, 4:55 pm
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       And NO, I wouldnt take Calvin Ridley at #8
       1st-Round Mock Draft
       1. Cleveland Browns: Sam Darnold, QB, USC
       2. New York Giants: Josh Rosen, QB, UCLA
       3. Indianapolis Colts: Bradley Chubb, DE, NC State
       4. Cleveland Browns (via HOU): Saquon Barkley, RB, Penn State
       5. Denver Broncos: Connor Williams, OT, Texas
       6. New York Jets: Baker Mayfield, QB, Oklahoma
       7. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Harold Landry, DE, Boston College
       8. Chicago Bears: Calvin Ridley, WR, Alabama
       9. Oakland Raiders: Josh Jackson, CB, Iowa
       10. San Francisco 49ers: Quenton Nelson, OG, Notre Dame
       11. Miami Dolphins: Derrius Guice, RB, LSU
       12. Cincinnati Bengals: Roquan Smith, LB, Georgia
       13. Washington Redskins: Josh Allen, QB, Wyoming
       14. Green Bay Packers: Jaire Alexander, CB, Louisville
       15. Arizona Cardinals: Lamar Jackson, QB, Louisville
       16. Baltimore Ravens: Courtland Sutton, WR, SMU
       17. Los Angeles Chargers: Rashaan Evans, LB, Alabama
       18. Seattle Seahawks: Mike McGlinchey, OT, Notre Dame
       19. Dallas Cowboys: Christian Wilkins, DT, Clemson
       20. Detroit Lions: Arden Key, DE, LSU
       21. Buffalo Bills: Clelin Ferrell, DE, Clemson
       22. Atlanta Falcons: Derwin James, SS, FSU
       23. Tennessee Titans: Sam Hubbard, DE, Ohio State
       24. Carolina Panthers: James Washington, WR, Oklahoma State
       25. Buffalo Bills (via KC): Orlando Brown, OT, Oklahoma
       26. New Orleans Saints: Christian Kirk, WR, Texas A&M
       27. Jacksonville Jaguars: Dallas Goedert, TE, South Dakota State
       28. Los Angeles Rams: Malik Jefferson, LB, Texas
       29. Pittsburgh Steelers: Minkah Fitzpatrick, FS, Alabama
       30. Minnesota Vikings: Billy Price, OL, Ohio State
       31. Philadelphia Eagles: Denzel Ward, CB, Ohio State
       #Post#: 333765--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2018 NFL Draft
   DIR By: method
       Date: January 7, 2018, 8:04 pm
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       there is no way Fitzpatrick falls to 29....
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       Re: 2018 NFL Draft
   DIR By: Dave23
       Date: January 7, 2018, 8:28 pm
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       Nope...
       #Post#: 333768--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2018 NFL Draft
   DIR By: WshflThinking
       Date: January 7, 2018, 10:21 pm
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       And there is a good chance he doesnt fall below #8.
       #Post#: 333807--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2018 NFL Draft
   DIR By: WshflThinking
       Date: January 8, 2018, 4:07 pm
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       An interesting read on how many teams may be interested in QBs
  HTML http://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2018/story/_/id/21836489/2018-nfl-draft-quarterback-class-preview-background-scouting-reports-pro-fits
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       Re: 2018 NFL Draft
   DIR By: davebear
       Date: January 8, 2018, 6:46 pm
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       Trade partners
       Redskins at 13, Cardinals at 15. Bills have 22 and 24
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       Re: 2018 NFL Draft
   DIR By: Grizzlybear34
       Date: January 8, 2018, 6:50 pm
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       --- Quote from: davebear link ---
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       > Trade partners
       > Redskins at 13, Cardinals at 15. Bills have 22 and 24
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       --- End Quote ---
       So based on the chart, what would the Redskins, Cardinals, and
       Bills have to offer to acquire our 1?
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       Re: 2018 NFL Draft
   DIR By: wmljohn
       Date: January 9, 2018, 10:54 am
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  HTML http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/draft/draft-trade-chart/
       #8 is worth 1400 points.
       #13 is 1150  Probably a 1&2(450) this year or #1 this year and
       #1 next year.
       #15 is 1050  1, 2 and late rounder or another combo 1 this year
       one next and a later round this or next.
       #22 is 780  Both 1s this year.  Or one this and next year plus
       multiple late rounders.
       #24 is 740
       I don't know if there are values on future picks since you don't
       know the positions.  Maybe there is a chart for what value each
       pick as for each round?
       And all this might be using an old chart.
       #Post#: 333832--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2018 NFL Draft
   DIR By: wmljohn
       Date: January 9, 2018, 11:03 am
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       And it was an old chart...  Article was dated 2010.  This
       article is 2017.
       NFL teams have revised the draft trade chart
       Posted by Michael David Smith on April 30, 2017, 7:37 PM EST
       Getty Images
       When Jimmy Johnson took over the Cowboys, he developed a draft
       trade chart that revolutionized the way draft-day trades worked
       in the NFL. Johnson had such success with trades involving draft
       picks that other teams quickly copied the Cowboys’ chart, and
       soon every team was using it.
       But that was a long time ago, before the salary cap and long
       before the rookie wage scale in the current Collective
       Bargaining Agreement. The old chart doesn’t really fit in a
       league where teams have a finite amount of cap space and have to
       consider how each rookie’s contract will fit under that cap. As
       a result, teams have developed a new trade chart.
       Seahawks General Manager John Schneider said his team has a new
       chart, updated this year because this is the first year when
       compensatory picks can be traded. Schneider also indicated that
       the Seahawks know other teams around the league are valuing
       picks the same way.
       “It’s based off of that, but now being able to trade
       compensatory picks, [Seahawks V.P. of Football Administration]
       Matt Thomas and a bunch of guys got together from different
       teams and put a new chart together so we’re following that now
       but it’s based off the same principle. It’s a scale,” Schneider
       said.
       Teams don’t make their charts public, but Rich Hill of
       PatsPulpit.com tracked every pick-for-pick trade that has been
       made in the NFL since the adoption of the new rookie wage scale
       in 2012 and used those trades to put together a new chart that
       shows how teams value picks under the new system. The Seahawks
       made three trades during this year’s draft, and those trades
       closely aligned with Hill’s chart, suggesting that chart closely
       matches the new chart the Seahawks and other teams are using.
       Trades don’t always perfectly align with the chart because teams
       are sometimes willing to overpay to move up for a player they
       love. But the new chart is usually a good indication of what
       teams can expect to get in a trade of picks. It’s Johnson’s
       innovation from three decades ago, updated for today’s NFL.
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