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Re: 2018 NFL Draft
DIR By: dallasbear
Date: January 5, 2018, 12:05 pm
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I look forward to the combine too, but sometimes the combine
elevates the more athletic players and knocks down the lesser
athletic ones.
Look at wide receiver. There were 3 receivers take in round 1
last year (all top 10). Three more taken in round 2 (two in top
10). The best one of the bunch was the guy taken at the end of
round 2 and he had the slowest 40 time of the bunch. The five
guys taken before him had 4.2 and 4.3 40s but none were very
productive though some of that was due to injury.
I look at this year's WR group and I'm thinking...not in round
1. Maybe after a trade down later in round 1 but certainly not
at 8. WRs are like thoroughbred race horses - brittle.
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Re: 2018 NFL Draft
DIR By: dallasbear
Date: January 5, 2018, 12:07 pm
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And I didnt think any GM would take a QB in the top ten last
year and it happened. If you are betting your life nobody takes
a QB this year in the top 8 you are a dead man walking. The QBs
are better quality this year than last year. I would believe in
$3 bills with Obama pics on them before no QBs before #8. Per
the line in the commercial, "Oh its happening sweetheart."
I don't think I stated that clearly. I meant to say Pace or any
GM in Pace's position. I wouldn't be surprised to see 4 QBs in
the top 10 in the 2018 draft.
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Re: 2018 NFL Draft
DIR By: boogie
Date: January 5, 2018, 12:15 pm
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The more qbs go in the top of the first, the more guys who we
could use will get pushed down to us.
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Re: 2018 NFL Draft
DIR By: WshflThinking
Date: January 5, 2018, 1:36 pm
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[B] I wouldn't be surprised to see 4 QBs in the top 10 in the
2018 draft.[/B]
Exactly. And you talked about threatening to take Barkley at 8
to force a trade. If somehow somebody is foolish enough to leave
Mayfield at #8, I can bet the Bears phone will be ringing off
the wall to trade up to #8 for Mayfield. Furthermore, despite
having Trubisky if I were Pace and Mayfield were there at #8, I
would take him and store him like the Pats did with Garoppolo. I
think Mayfield is that good, not that I think Trubisky isnt
going to be a quality QB. I just think Mayfield has a higher
upside than Trubisky. IMHO Mayfield is worthy of #1 in this
draft. I believe this draft is really QB rich.
And another thing, with injuries having 2 quality QBs is getting
to be a must.
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Re: 2018 NFL Draft
DIR By: dallasbear
Date: January 5, 2018, 2:21 pm
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Bears were 5-11 and really can't afford to stockpile a young QB
with a #8 pick with so many critical holes on their roster. Now
the Patriots did draft Grappolo with one of the last picks in
the 2nd round but they were a playoff team and Brady was
probably around 34 or 35 and thought Grappolo would be the heir
apparent. Well, Brady just kept performing right through
Grapplo's rookie contract, forcing the trade.
I was thinking that the Bears could take offers for Barkley, if
available at 8, because SF could be a landing spot for him.
Maybe get a team like Seattle interested in trading up to get
the 49ers to bite and trade with us. Could it happen?
Maybe...but not very likely. 49ers need also receivers,
offensive linemen and CBs too but Barkley might be too tempting
in a one slot trade up.
If Mayfield is there at 8 - not sure teams will have to trade
with the Bears. At 9 is SF and they have Grappolo, at 10 is
Raiders with Carr. So those teams are also candidates. Might
come down to whether any of those teams want to trade down.
Now 11 - 17, you could make a case for Miami, Cincy, Washington,
Green Bay, Arizona, Baltimore and the Chargers taking a QB. So
there might be a team wanting to trade up with the Bears or the
2 teams after them to take a QB.
But the Bears will need a backup QB - Glennon will be cut and
Sanchez is a FA. I'm thinking they'll be looking at vets but
another rookie in rounds 6 or 7 is a possibility.
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Re: 2018 NFL Draft
DIR By: method
Date: January 5, 2018, 2:36 pm
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OL in the 1st. trade down and grab Q if possible,
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Re: 2018 NFL Draft
DIR By: WshflThinking
Date: January 5, 2018, 3:38 pm
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I dont see any premier Olineman worthy of a top 10 pick, even
the one most mentioned is bad and that is ND's Mike McGlinchey.
He sucks canal water
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Re: 2018 NFL Draft
DIR By: dallasbear
Date: January 5, 2018, 4:02 pm
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His teammate (guard) is probably rated higher. Can't say that
I'm that enthused about taking the UT tackle early either coming
off an injury.
Bears could take an offensive lineman with a trade down in round
1 or possibly defer to round 2 or later...round 4? We don't
need a LT - Leno is solid. Bears can draft a RT type that can
play inside a year (replace Sitton or Long if needed) then
eventually slide over to RT when Massie's contract ends after
2018.
I'm almost ready to prioritize O-line over an edge guy...
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Re: 2018 NFL Draft
DIR By: Grizzlybear34
Date: January 6, 2018, 6:04 am
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--- Quote from: dallasbear link ---
>
> I look forward to the combine too, but sometimes the combine
elevates the more athletic players and knocks down the lesser
athletic ones.
>
> Look at wide receiver. There were 3 receivers take in round 1
last year (all top 10). Three more taken in round 2 (two in top
10). The best one of the bunch was the guy taken at the end of
round 2 and he had the slowest 40 time of the bunch. The five
guys taken before him had 4.2 and 4.3 40s but none were very
productive though some of that was due to injury.
>
> I look at this year's WR group and I'm thinking...not in round
1. Maybe after a trade down later in round 1 but certainly not
at 8. WRs are like thoroughbred race horses - brittle.
>
--- End Quote ---
No argument from me, I see the same thing. Start drafting WR's
late 2nd round and back.
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Re: 2018 NFL Draft
DIR By: Grizzlybear34
Date: January 6, 2018, 6:19 am
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Please, please do not waste a late round pick on a qb. Just
throwing away a draft asset. Since 1995 with the drafting of
Brunell, Brady, Brunell and Cousins are the exceptions, how many
qbs drafted after 4th round hit it in the NFL? The draft is
much more sophisticated and for a lottery QB chance in 23 years,
I'd rather roll the dice on a later round offensive lineman or a
higher ceiling skill player that missed because of injury like
an Eddie Jackson. I know we drafted him in the 4th round, but I
would rather take his comp in a later rounds than take the
chance that a late round QB will pan out to be something.
The Patriots drafted Garappolo in the late 2nd round, and turned
that into a high 2nd round pick after he played in 3 games. In
my opinion that is hardly a great return. For those with the
argument that you grab one late because you are so smart and
turn it into a higher draft choice.
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