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#Post#: 359749--------------------------------------------------
Re: Cubs in '19
DIR By: CUBluejays
Date: October 3, 2018, 8:22 pm
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I’m less worried about Bryant’s shoulder healing if he doesn’t
need surgery. If Bryant has surgery then I’m worried about next
year. Is it possible the Cubs medical staff missed something
with multiple MRIs. Yes. Could it be a issue next year? Yes,
but it is much less scary without surgery.
Last year Mookie Betts had a wRC+ 106, Bogarts 96, Benintendi
102, Joc Pederson 100, Machado 103. Sometimes young guys
struggle or deal with injury issues.
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Re: Cubs in '19
DIR By: brjones
Date: October 3, 2018, 8:46 pm
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--- Quote from: CUBluejays link ---
>
> Last year Mookie Betts had a wRC+ 106, Bogarts 96, Benintendi
102, Joc Pederson 100, Machado 103. Sometimes young guys
struggle or deal with injury issues.
>
--- End Quote ---
Three of those five had something in common with the Cubs' young
hitters in 2018.
Part of a hitting coach's job is helping young players develop.
I don't see how they can justify keeping Chili Davis around.
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Re: Cubs in '19
DIR By: Deeg
Date: October 3, 2018, 9:05 pm
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I believe what Theo said was something along the lines of “Do
not believe he will need surgery but have not gotten the full
medical report”, wasn’t it? That hardly rules out the
possibility.
#Post#: 359756--------------------------------------------------
Re: Cubs in '19
DIR By: CUBluejays
Date: October 3, 2018, 9:14 pm
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He said the current medical plan doesn’t include surgery and
Kris will meet with the doctors soon for a recheck and that he
still doesn’t expect it to include surgery.
The only reason surgery would be needed is if an MRI showed
structural damage or his shoulder wasn’t improving. If his
shoulder didn’t improve he would have never gotten back into
game action.
Theo didn’t rule out surgery, but it is very unlikely.
#Post#: 359757--------------------------------------------------
Re: Cubs in '19
DIR By: Deeg
Date: October 3, 2018, 9:18 pm
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Is that like "If Strop's hammy hadn't improved he never would
have gotten back on the mound"?
#Post#: 359759--------------------------------------------------
Re: Cubs in '19
DIR By: CUBluejays
Date: October 3, 2018, 9:32 pm
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--- Quote from: brjones link ---
>
> Three of those five had something in common with the Cubs'
young hitters in 2018.
>
> Part of a hitting coach's job is helping young players
develop. I don't see how they can justify keeping Chili Davis
around.
>
--- End Quote ---
Maybe he's the problem maybe he isn't. Here is their wRC+ under
Chili
Mookie
2015 120
2016 136
Benintendi
2016 118 PA, 121
Bogaerts (pre Chili)
2013 50 PA, 85
2014 81
2015 (Chili) 111
2016 114
2017 injured wrist
Heck look at Harper 137, 115, 197, 111, 155, 135
Look at the Cubs this year guys Contreras, Rizzo, Bryant, Almora
and Russell where the guys that fell off. 4/5 of those guys had
injuries and or over use confirmed. The only guy that didn't is
Almora and as bad as he played in the second half I wouldn't be
shocked if he had something going on.
Happ was basically the same.
Baez, Zobrist, Heyward, Schwarber all improved over last year.
Development isn't linear.
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Re: Cubs in '19
DIR By: craig
Date: October 3, 2018, 10:09 pm
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What was Russell's injury deal this year? I know he had a sore
knuckle late in the season. Was his knuckle bothering him all
year? Or did he have a shoulder injury too?
I hadn't actually realized he was injured all season. That
makes two years straight that were bad because of injuries?
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Re: Cubs in '19
DIR By: Deeg
Date: October 3, 2018, 10:34 pm
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I love this idea that a Almora must have been hiding an injury
when in fact, he was the exact same player he’s been every year
since AA. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.
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Re: Cubs in '19
DIR By: brjones
Date: October 3, 2018, 10:41 pm
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Don't worry, Almora's breakout is right around the corner.
Some people on this board will still be expecting that he'll
turn into an All Star any day when he's 38 and has been out of
baseball for 6 years.
#Post#: 359767--------------------------------------------------
Re: Cubs in '19
DIR By: davep
Date: October 3, 2018, 10:41 pm
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--- Quote from: brjones link ---
>
> I'm pretty confident that the main problem for Contreras was
fatigue. As some here have pointed out, he didn't allow himself
to have a real offseason last year--he was immediately working
on getting ready for the season. He caught far more than any
other catcher in baseball this year...I looked it up about a
month ago, and based on pitches caught, he was behind the plate
for something like 8-10 full games worth more pitches than the
second most active catcher in baseball. He had no All Star
break.
>
> And the numbers were there for the first 4 months of the
season. After the game on August 1, he was hitting
.283/.372/.458. The batting average and OBP were career highs
(by 1 point and 15 points, respectively). The slugging was down
from .494 over his first two seasons. But a part of that was
that a few homers had turned into triples (he had 5 triples by
that point this year; he had none in 2017 in about the same
number of PAs). He had lost a few extra base hits since 2017,
but nothing that would throw up any warning signs over a 384 PA
sample when all the other numbers looked good. The fact that he
just fell off a cliff for the last two months just fits with him
wearing down.
>
> Bryant, though...shoulder injuries are tricky. Especially
vague shoulder issues that don't really have a clear diagnosis.
>
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I agree. I am more confident of Contreras coming back to
previous norms than I am about Bryant.
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