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Re: Cubs in '19
DIR By: Ron
Date: November 2, 2018, 11:04 am
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--- Quote from: craig link ---
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> 3. If the Cubs were to get to the World Series, would they be
able to set any records for the older rotation in baseball
history? They are REALLY getting old, older, and oldest.
Memory is shallow, but I can't ever remember a Cubs rotation
that was even close to this old-old-old.
>
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Projected 2019 Starting Rotation for the Cubs on opening day.
Cole Hamels - 35 (birthday in Dec)
Jon Lester - 35 (birthday in Jan)
Yu Darvish - 32 (turns 33 in Aug)
Jose Quintana - 30 (birthday in Jan)
Kyle Hendricks - 28 (birthday in Dec)
Only Hamels & Lester are "old" in any sense, seems to me.
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Re: Cubs in '19
DIR By: brjones
Date: November 2, 2018, 11:49 am
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The moves are official. The trade is actually Smyly and a PTBNL
to the Rangers for a PTBNL. Interesting that there's a PTBNL on
both sides.
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Re: Cubs in '19
DIR By: craig
Date: November 2, 2018, 12:19 pm
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Interesting. So, basically a salary dump.
I imagine some possible contingencies on the PTBNL?
*If SMyly is no good, we give them somebody to offset the
million?
*If Smyly ends up being good, maybe we get a decent prospect in
the 15-30 range of the Rangers system?
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Re: Cubs in '19
DIR By: method
Date: November 2, 2018, 12:28 pm
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--- Quote from: craig link ---
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> Interesting. So, basically a salary dump.
>
> I imagine some possible contingencies on the PTBNL?
> *If SMyly is no good, we give them somebody to offset the
million?
> *If Smyly ends up being good, maybe we get a decent prospect
in the 15-30 range of the Rangers system?
>
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With his injury history, its likely a innings # to hit for a
good prospect.
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Re: Cubs in '19
DIR By: brjones
Date: November 2, 2018, 12:35 pm
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The Cubs manager in waiting will still be around next year:
Jesse Rogers @ESPNChiCubs
More Cubs news today: Bench coach Brandon Hyde will return to
the team in the same role after being a finalist for several
managerial openings this off season, per a source.
HTML https://es.pn/2zrtu1I
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Re: Cubs in '19
DIR By: Playtwo
Date: November 2, 2018, 12:35 pm
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Given this, what was the point in picking up Smyly in the first
place?
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Re: Cubs in '19
DIR By: method
Date: November 2, 2018, 12:36 pm
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They didnt have Hamels when they picked up smyly. Hamels changed
the plan by being a better option.
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Re: Cubs in '19
DIR By: Playtwo
Date: November 2, 2018, 12:45 pm
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Good point. Smyly probably requested to be traded if the Cubs
were going to pick up Hamels' option, realizing that his chances
of cracking the rotation were slim and presumably not wanting to
be relegated to the pen.
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Re: Cubs in '19
DIR By: CurtOne
Date: November 2, 2018, 12:53 pm
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Smyly was used as an asset.
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Re: Cubs in '19
DIR By: craig
Date: November 2, 2018, 1:03 pm
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--- Quote from: Playtwo link ---
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> Given this, what was the point in picking up Smyly in the
first place?
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How would you answer?
In hindsight, another of the winter decisions. Spent $200
million on four post-surgery arms. The only arm that held up
couldn't find the strike zone.
In some markets, if you flush $180M one winter, and flush
another $200 two winters later, you'd get in some trouble. Theo
is probably fortunate to work for a big-market operation that
can absorb some unsuccessful decisions.
I'm not suggesting any were dumb or illogical, they just didn't
work. Who knows, maybe this year Smyly, Chatwood, Morrow, and
Darvish will all be very effective and healthy too. Maybe
Kinzler will be a solid workman, too.
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