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       #Post#: 361488--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cubs in '19
   DIR By: brjones
       Date: November 1, 2018, 9:42 pm
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       Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal
       #Cubs might make a trade to clear salary before picking up
       Hamels’ $20M option, sources tell The Athletic. At this point, a
       long-term deal for Hamels is unlikely. If Cubs decline option
       and make Hamels a free agent, #Rangers will pay his $6M buyout.
       But goal is to keep him.
       #Post#: 361489--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cubs in '19
   DIR By: Chris27
       Date: November 1, 2018, 9:54 pm
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       As I've mentioned before, Machado didn't have a sterling
       reputation even prior to his playoff shenanigans. The front
       office seems to like "character" guys like Heyward more. Can't
       imagine they're interested in Machado at this point.
       #Post#: 361490--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cubs in '19
   DIR By: ben
       Date: November 1, 2018, 10:14 pm
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       Agree, Chris.
       #Post#: 361494--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cubs in '19
   DIR By: brjones
       Date: November 2, 2018, 9:42 am
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       Jerry Crasnick @jcrasnick
       The #Cubs are picking up Cole Hamels' $20 million option today,
       according to sources. In a related move, they're trading pitcher
       Drew Smiley to the #Rangers.
       #Post#: 361495--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cubs in '19
   DIR By: brjones
       Date: November 2, 2018, 9:46 am
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       Too bad they couldn't convince the Rangers to take Kintzler
       instead.
       #Post#: 361496--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cubs in '19
   DIR By: Bennett
       Date: November 2, 2018, 9:52 am
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       --- Quote from: brjones link ---
       >
       > Jerry Crasnick @jcrasnick
       > The #Cubs are picking up Cole Hamels' $20 million option
       today, according to sources. In a related move, they're trading
       pitcher Drew Smiley to the #Rangers.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       The Hamels decision had to be made by today.
       #Post#: 361500--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cubs in '19
   DIR By: JeffH
       Date: November 2, 2018, 10:40 am
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       Locking in Hamels and trading Smyly leaves the 40-man roster at
       36.
       By 4:00 p.m. Central today, the Cubs have to empty their 60-day
       disabled list.  If they simply transfer those players to the
       40-man, that will make it full at 40.
       Currently on the 60-day DL:
       Yu Darvish
       Justin Hancock
       Brandon Morrow
       Drew Smyly (reportedly gone)
       Mark Zagunis
       #Post#: 361501--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cubs in '19
   DIR By: craig
       Date: November 2, 2018, 10:46 am
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       Interesting.
       1.  Had hoped Smyly might be one of the surprise get-some-value
       guys next year, whether in bullpen, or maybe even in rotation.
       2.  Will be interesting if the "trade" actually returns any
       talent value, or if it's basically a salary dump, with some
       token non-prospect coming in return?
       3.  If the Cubs were to get to the World Series, would they be
       able to set any records for the older rotation in baseball
       history?  They are REALLY getting old, older, and oldest.
       Memory is shallow, but I can't ever remember a Cubs rotation
       that was even close to this old-old-old.
       4.  Given Hamels age, and that I think his stuff is generally in
       decline, I'm kinda glad the Cubs just took the big-dollar
       one-year deal, rather than extending and committing more
       long-term money.  (I'm lazy baseball reference guy, but he's
       coming off 3.78 and 4.20 ERA's, with FIP's of 4.49 and 4.62.
       One of the other FIP's is probably better and more favorable,
       but the numbers aren't that hot, and at age 35 he's not likely
       to get a lot faster or better.....)
       5.  I wonder how this worked with Texas?  Had they let him go,
       Texas would have got socked with $6M bill.  So, I wonder whether
       Cubs told them "We're not going to pay $7 for Smyly and $20 for
       Hamels.  So, would you like to pay $6 for Hamels?  Or would you
       rather pay $7 and get Smyly?"
       #Post#: 361502--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cubs in '19
   DIR By: CurtOne
       Date: November 2, 2018, 10:48 am
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       Wonder how much cash came in the Smyly trade?  "Look, Rangers,
       we're going to decline Hamels' option which will cost you 6 mil,
       or we can send you Drew Smyly for 6 mil and pick up the option."
       Meaning, less Smyly, we're paying Hamels $12.
       #Post#: 361503--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cubs in '19
   DIR By: CurtOne
       Date: November 2, 2018, 10:49 am
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       Craig on the same page.
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