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       #Post#: 360773--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cubs in '19
   DIR By: Bennett
       Date: October 21, 2018, 6:55 pm
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       Jon Heyman  @JonHeyman   9h9 hours ago
       Girardi surprised reds by pulling out Friday. He had a chance to
       win job at that point but they never got to point of talking
       money with him. He also pulled out of rangers derby. Industry
       speculation: he’s waiting a year on Chicago
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       Re: Cubs in '19
   DIR By: brjones
       Date: October 21, 2018, 7:30 pm
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       Girardi may be waiting for the Cubs job to open up, but I can't
       imagine this front office wanting him. There have been rumors
       that one of the reasons the Cubs may be willing to move on from
       Maddon is that he just does whatever he wants. I'm sure Girardi
       would expect that same freedom.
       If someone else doesn't hire Brandon Hyde in the next week or
       two, I would be pretty shocked if he's not the next Cubs
       manager.
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       Re: Cubs in '19
   DIR By: CUBluejays
       Date: October 21, 2018, 8:51 pm
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       I think Hyde would be in contention, but there will be other
       candidates. Ross if he gets into coaching and the same goes for
       Derosa. Rocco Baldelli sounds like an interesting coach with the
       Rays.
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       Re: Cubs in '19
   DIR By: Deeg
       Date: October 21, 2018, 8:52 pm
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       I agree Hyde would be the favorite, but I'll be surprised if
       he's not snatched up in the next two weeks.
       On Girardi, there are obvious culture fit issues there.  But if
       Theo decides he wants to do a complete shift from the laid-back
       Maddon, Girardi does sort of fit the bill.  I think it's pretty
       clear Theo is tired of celebrity managers, but Girardi isn't
       that in the same way Maddon is.
       #Post#: 360783--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cubs in '19
   DIR By: brjones
       Date: October 21, 2018, 9:03 pm
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       I don't think one year of coaching will get Ross or DeRosa the
       job. Outside of Counsell, the track record for guys who didn't
       spend at least a few years coaching and/or managing in the
       minors has been pretty bad.
       I get that Girardi is a temperament change from Maddon...but
       they can get a hardass without going to another $5 million/year
       manager who doesn't feel like he has to listen to the front
       office.
       #Post#: 360784--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cubs in '19
   DIR By: CUBluejays
       Date: October 21, 2018, 9:16 pm
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       Alex Cora had 1 year as the Astros bench coach. Aaron Boone had
       no experience. Roberts had all of 4 years as coach, three years
       as a first base coach and 1 as a bench coach.
       I think an experienced bench coach and analytics can limit lack
       of experience.
       #Post#: 360785--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cubs in '19
   DIR By: Ron
       Date: October 21, 2018, 9:22 pm
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       I always liked Mark DeRosa as a player.  But the last I knew,
       DeRosa is extremely skeptical about modern analytics. I don't
       think he'll be managing the Cubs.
       #Post#: 360786--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cubs in '19
   DIR By: guest61
       Date: October 21, 2018, 9:31 pm
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       I dont know where any of you have got that Maddon is a dead man
       walking and that Theo is tired of him.
       #Post#: 360787--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cubs in '19
   DIR By: CUBluejays
       Date: October 21, 2018, 9:35 pm
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       --- Quote from: Ron link ---
       >
       > I always liked Mark DeRosa as a player.  But the last I knew,
       DeRosa is extremely skeptical about modern analytics. I don't
       think he'll be managing the Cubs.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       After his Mets interview he acknowledge he had to learn it. I
       don’t think anybody that wants to manage this n baseball can
       ignore it anymore.
       As far as Madden goes he could get extended or he could get
       replaced. I think he was the perfect guy to break the 108 year
       curse and last year was his most difficult. Marrow and Strop’s
       handling have me concerned.
       #Post#: 360793--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cubs in '19
   DIR By: Deeg
       Date: October 22, 2018, 2:55 am
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       --- Quote from: brjones link ---
       >
       > I don't think one year of coaching will get Ross or DeRosa the
       job. Outside of Counsell, the track record for guys who didn't
       spend at least a few years coaching and/or managing in the
       minors has been pretty bad.
       >
       > I get that Girardi is a temperament change from Maddon...but
       they can get a hardass without going to another $5 million/year
       manager who doesn't feel like he has to listen to the front
       office.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I don’t think Girardi will get 5 millibar this point, and I
       don’t see him necessarily as a guy who refuses to listen to the
       front office. My bigger concern is that he doesn’t seem all that
       enthusiastic about advanced statistics.
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