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#Post#: 346319--------------------------------------------------
Re: Cubs Draft 2018
DIR By: JR
Date: June 5, 2018, 12:05 am
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Maybe Hoerner is a "Maybe we shouldn't have traded D.J.
LeMahieu" kind of pick?
College bats seem so dead now too. Maybe projecting more power
isn't an overenthusiastic thing?
I think LeMahieu is probably what a guy like Hoerner sounds like
to me.
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Re: Cubs Draft 2018
DIR By: Bennett
Date: June 5, 2018, 12:08 am
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Dan Plesac on the Rays first pick
"He has the potential for a lot of upside"
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Re: Cubs Draft 2018
DIR By: JR
Date: June 5, 2018, 12:10 am
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Or what DaveP said ... can't believe I'm actually saying that by
the way.
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Re: Cubs Draft 2018
DIR By: goblue007
Date: June 5, 2018, 2:06 am
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Blah on Richan. Apparently he’s signing for slot too.
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Re: Cubs Draft 2018
DIR By: ticohans
Date: June 5, 2018, 2:27 am
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--- Quote from: Deeg link ---
>
> As good as this admin has been on the big league side, I think
one could argue their draft track record has been middling at
best. Bryant was a home run, but pretty much a slam dunk.
Schwarber is a pick they deserve a lot of credit for. But who
else? Cease, maybe? At least as a trade chip.
>
>
> Edit: Well, there's Almora too - forgot about him.
>
--- End Quote ---
Bryant may have been obvious, but Appel was “obvious” that year,
too. In the meantime, the Cubs have struck gold with all their
other 1st round picks, as Almora, Schwarber, and Happ are
seriously good young players. That’s not something to take for
granted, and not all those picks were “obvious.” I’d wager a
fair amount that the Cub drafts of the past 7 years have been
*far* more productive than most of the rest of MLB.
Outside of the draft, the Cubs have also done an amazing job in
the intl market: Contreras, Torres, Jimenez, Soler, etc... both
under Hendry and now under Theo the Cubs have done a fantastic
job of identifying and developing amateur hitting talent.
Now if we could just figure out pitching...
All this to say that I would strongly disagree with the idea
that Cub draft results have been middling, and I’m all but
certain the numbers back me up here.
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Re: Cubs Draft 2018
DIR By: ticohans
Date: June 5, 2018, 2:28 am
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--- Quote from: goblue007 link ---
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> Blah on Richan. Apparently he’s signing for slot too.
>
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Yeah, Richan is the one I don’t get at all.
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Re: Cubs Draft 2018
DIR By: Chris27
Date: June 5, 2018, 3:47 am
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Hoerner's stats in last year's Cape Cod league:
.300, 7 2B, 6 HR, 28 RBI, 13 BB, 16 K, 15 SB, .812 OPS, (160
AB)
And his spray chart which suggests he hits the ball everywhere:
HTML http://pointstreak.com/baseball/player_spray_chart.html?playerid=1115789
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Re: Cubs Draft 2018
DIR By: dallen7908
Date: June 5, 2018, 4:28 am
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--- Quote from: craig link ---
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> Hoerner's HR power has been increasing: 0 > 1 > 2.
>
> Not much speed.
>
> Not sure how good the defense projects.
>
> Wonder if he might project to be something of a Ryan Theriot?
(Maybe Ryan-Theriot-at-his-best?) Theriot had an 8-year, 6.7
WAR career, hit .281. We may not have the best memories, but
prime-Theriot had a .745 OPS one year and hit 7 HR's the next,
with .387 and .345 OBP. *IF* you had a guy who could do that
for longer than two years, that might be a good pick.
>
> Maybe poor comp; Theriot walked a lot, plus regularly stole
20+ bases. Hoerner doesn't walk, and obviously doesn't have
that kind of speed.
>
> Deeg mentioned RH LaStella.... If LaStella could play a good
SS/2B, I'd love to have that.
>
> But, LaStella is kind of amazing as hitter, pretty sure not
getting that.
>
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Darwin Barney with twice the power and half the speed?
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Re: Cubs Draft 2018
DIR By: CUBluejays
Date: June 5, 2018, 5:51 am
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The pitcher is the puzzling pick.
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Re: Cubs Draft 2018
DIR By: Playtwo
Date: June 5, 2018, 8:11 am
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Richan had a K/BB of 101/13 over 89 2/3 innings this season,
with a fastball topping in the mid 90s. Perhaps they see a guy
with great command who has ML potential if he can develop
another effective pitch.
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