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       Re: Cubs Draft 2018
       By: davep Date: June 4, 2018, 10:53 pm
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       Hoerner sounds like a Lemahieu with speed.
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       Re: Cubs Draft 2018
       By: ticohans Date: June 4, 2018, 10:56 pm
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       I can get behind the raw, toolsy OFs, especially after the safe
       pick of Horner, but a college pitcher with an ERA over 4.5?
       Obvs, ERA isn’t everything, but when college hitters score off
       you that often, what about pros?
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       Re: Cubs Draft 2018
       By: Dave23 Date: June 4, 2018, 10:57 pm
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       Hoerner's writeup at mlb says that he runs 'fairly well, but
       isn't overly fluid in his actions'...that doesn't sound like
       70/70 to me?
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       Re: Cubs Draft 2018
       By: Deeg Date: June 4, 2018, 11:04 pm
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       Pretty meh day on paper.
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       Re: Cubs Draft 2018
       By: Dave23 Date: June 4, 2018, 11:07 pm
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       On paper, we greatly overdrafted 4 kids...I hope the brass have
       seen something everyone else hasn't...
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       Re: Cubs Draft 2018
       By: Deeg Date: June 4, 2018, 11:10 pm
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       [quote author=Dave23 link=topic=513.msg346312#msg346312
       date=1528171631]
       On paper, we greatly overdrafted 4 kids...I hope the brass have
       seen something everyone else hasn't...
       [/quote]
       As good as this admin has been on the big league side, I think
       one could argue their draft track record has been middling at
       best.  Bryant was a home run, but pretty much a slam dunk.
       Schwarber is a pick they deserve a lot of credit for.  But who
       else?  Cease, maybe?  At least as a trade chip.
       Edit: Well, there's Almora too - forgot about him.
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       Re: Cubs Draft 2018
       By: CUBluejays Date: June 4, 2018, 11:27 pm
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       [quote author=Dave23 link=topic=513.msg346310#msg346310
       date=1528171068]
       Hoerner's writeup at mlb says that he runs 'fairly well, but
       isn't overly fluid in his actions'...that doesn't sound like
       70/70 to me?
       [/quote]
       MLB.com grades are routinely questionable. The run grade
       measures strictly speed and the 1B time for a right handed
       hitter of 4.13 would be consistent with 70 speed. If LaStella
       had 50 speed and a 50 arm he’d be an all star.
       Finding players outside of the 1st round is hard and got even
       harder without being able to throw more money at high schoolers.
       I’ll take the Cubs scouts over other decision makers, especially
       since we don’t know what these kids are signing for and what the
       Cubs have planned for later. That said they’ve still produced
       major leaguers outside of the first round and some interesting
       prospects as well even if they aren’t star level players.
       I mean Theo Cubs first round picks have produced 6.8 fWAR for
       the Cubs this year.
       Just to put that into context 6.8 fWAR would tie them for 16th
       in MLB position player fWAR for teams.
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       Re: Cubs Draft 2018
       By: DelMarFan Date: June 4, 2018, 11:34 pm
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       [quote]I’ll take the Cubs scouts over other decision
       makers[/quote]
       I'd like to agree with you, but I'd be accused of being a
       management shill.
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       Re: Cubs Draft 2018
       By: Deeg Date: June 4, 2018, 11:40 pm
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       Well, around here it always comes back to "those guys are really
       smart, so who are you to question them?"  Not much of an
       argument to begin with, and I don't know how much use it is in
       terms of stimulating a discussion.
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       Re: Cubs Draft 2018
       By: Ron Date: June 4, 2018, 11:41 pm
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