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2018 Chicago Bears
By: Dave23 Date: January 24, 2018, 4:12 pm
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To shut jj up...
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Re: 2018 Chicago Bears
By: Jackiejokeman Date: January 24, 2018, 4:20 pm
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[font=Verdana][/font][quote author=Dave23
link=topic=502.msg334775#msg334775
date=1516831930][font=Verdana][/font]To shut jj up...
[/quote]
Thanx Hepcat !
BEARSE now soar into the future !!!
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Re: 2018 Chicago Bears
By: Jackiejokeman Date: January 24, 2018, 4:42 pm
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Doesn't being up to date feel better already ?
Now let's get started !
What's out there in F.A. ?
We got money ... where do we play it at ?
The Combine ... where do we make our mind up about what ?
NFL is lucid ... if two bangalore WR's come our way while two
LB's come our way ...
what is needed more to advance the TEAM ?
Isn't it about points scored ?
Speaking of which ... OL is needed to get points scored also
...
it can drive us all crazy being CHICAGO BEARS fans.
That's why we're here. :D
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Re: 2018 Chicago Bears
By: dallasbear Date: January 24, 2018, 5:31 pm
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Bangalore WRs? What's their 40 time?
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Re: 2018 Chicago Bears
By: wmljohn Date: January 25, 2018, 6:04 am
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I don't know what JJ was bitching about. We are still in the
2017 NFL calendar year so we are still talking about the 2017
Chicago Bears. ;D
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Re: 2018 Chicago Bears
By: Bears4Ever Date: January 25, 2018, 7:37 am
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There are reasons for optimism for this iteration of the Bears,
as there are reasons for pessimism:
Optimistic: The new HC and coaching staff brings new blood and
new energy to the building.
Pessimistic: Nagy has only called plays for 6 games in the NFL.
And he took credit for not running in the second half of the WC
game when they had a considerable lead.
Optimistic: The training staff is in the process of being
overhauled. As there have been too many seemingly preventable
soft tissue injuries the last 3 years to conclude it is just bad
luck.
Pessimistic: Three years is not enough of a good enough
statistical sample size. The injuries could continue the same,
get better, or get worse. Changing the staff may even increase
it for the 1st year as the new procedures/techniques are
applied.
Optimistic: It seems that the offense is being emphasized (as
the D is going to stay the same) and with a better offense, the
Bears would have won more games with what they put on the field
in 2017.
Pessimistic: We have no idea how (or when) the offense will mesh
properly (if at all). We may go through a 5-6 game losing streak
right out of the gate until things begin to "click".
Optimist: The D will be back better than ever !
Pessimist: They still have no true proven edge rusher that
scares the pants off any O or any single player the Offense must
key on in order to be successful. As such the D will have good
games.... and bad games. When the D broke down this last year it
was failure of execution as much as scheme.
Optimist: It appears that finally there is a coaching staff in
place that seems to have positioned itself to grow the young
talent (indeed, the staff and the talent can grow together as
they have a few seasons to mesh).
Pessimist: Talent can only grow if there is some to begin with.
With Pace buying the groceries the staff will have no real idea
of what they are going to get (especially in FA). For every
Hicks acquired, a sub-talent hacks have been paid for (Glennon
is a good example) and the remainder are also-rans.
Optimistic: The Bears will make the playoffs next year !
Pessimistic: The Bears are a 4-6 win team at best next year.
I am more of an optimist than a pessimist about the Bears
chances for the next few seasons, but having seen a playoff
irrelevant team for over half a decade it is a cautious
optimism. My pessimistic side comes from discussions with others
more than my own conviction.
Here's to a winning Bears' Dynasty ! After all living depressed
is not living at all.... :)
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Re: 2018 Chicago Bears
By: boogie Date: January 26, 2018, 1:17 pm
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Who Should the Bears Cut and Keep this Offseason?
BY JACK SOBLE ON JANUARY 25, 2018
It’s that time of year again. The Chicago Bears recently
completed another disappointing season and hope to make dramatic
improvements from their 5-11 record in 2017.
Before the Bears can start to acquire talent from around the
league, they must first choose what to do with a good portion of
their 2017 roster, thanks to a good number of expiring contracts
and an unprecedentedly awful free agent class from last March.
It was so pitiful that quite literally every single player who
was signed at the start of the 2017 league year will be listed
in this article.
Luckily, all of those signings were on team-friendly deals that
the Bears can and will easily get out of. So without further
ado, here are the players I believe the Bears should cut, keep,
re-sign, and let walk (all numbers according to spotrac.com).
Note: the Possible Cut section only includes players with
significant paychecks. Players like Hroniss Grasu, who should be
cut but are paid very little, are omitted.
Possible Cuts
Mike Glennon (QB), 2018 Cap Hit: $16 million, Dead Money: $4.5
million
There are a few very easy decisions on this list, but this one
tops the rest. General Manager Ryan Pace grossly miscalculated
Mike Glennon‘s ability to play the most important position in
sports, as well as his leadership skills, evidenced by when he
threw wide receiver Josh Bellamy under the bus for an
interception against Tampa Bay.
No type of fan was more infuriating last offseason than the “Why
would they draft Trubisky if they signed Mike Glennon to a
three-year contract?” people, and they are about to see how
Glennon’s deal was really only for one year.
Verdict: Cut
Josh Sitton (G), Cap Hit: $8.6 Million, Dead Money: $666,668
Sitton is one of the more difficult decisions that general
manager Ryan Pace will have to make. He’s a proven veteran and
four-time Pro Bowler, who is one of the more essential leaders
in the locker room and on the offensive line.
However, Sitton is on the wrong side of 30, has injury concerns,
and would save the Bears eight million if they choose to release
him. There were also a few rumors going around that the Bears
were shopping Sitton at the trade deadline. Right now I think
he’s too valuable of a player to let go for nothing and I don’t
think teams will be getting in line to give up a draft pick for
an aging guard in the last year of his contract.
He should stay, but the Bears should invest heavily in-depth
behind him.
Verdict: Keep
Pernell McPhee (OLB), Cap Hit: $8.1 Million, Dead Money: $1
Million
It saddens me to say, but this is not a hard choice. When McPhee
signed in 2015, he won over Bears fans with his violent style of
play, sack production, and hatred for Packers’ quarterback Aaron
Rodgers. I love everything about McPhee, except for his knees.
Constant and somewhat severe injuries have made McPhee a shell
of what he once was, and even his defensive coordinator Vic
Fangio knows that he’ll never be the same guy on the field.
At this point, McPhee is nothing more than a rotational outside
linebacker and he’s being paid way too much for that.
Verdict: Cut
Dion Sims (TE), Cap Hit: $6.3 Million, Dead Money: $666,667
Sims came to Chicago with the hope that he could become more
than he was at the time, which is a solid blocking tight end who
isn’t enough of a receiving threat to be anything other than a
number two on the depth chart. He failed to do just that, and he
failed to make a significant impact on the Bears’ offense to
justify his hefty paycheck. Sims is a fine backup tight end but
there are many players out there who will do his job much better
and for much less cash.
Verdict: Cut
Bobby Massie (RT), Cap Hit: $6.1 Million, Dead Money: $500,000
Massie signed as a free agent to a moderately high-paying deal
with the Bears banking on him becoming a complete player. With
Massie, the question was can he develop his pass blocking
ability to compliment his run blocking prowess? The answer was a
resounding “No.”
By my count, he was responsible for seven sacks in 2017, the
most out of any lineman on the team by a fairly significant
margin. He wouldn’t be a bad swing tackle and a team like the
Bears could always use offensive line depth, but Massie is
earning too much money for that to happen.
Verdict: Cut
Markus Wheaton (WR) and Marcus Cooper (CB), Cap Hit: $5.8 and
$5.5 million, Dead Money: $750,000 and $1 Million
Wheaton and Cooper are grouped together here because they had
the same general type of season in what will be their only with
the Bears. Wheaton was injured for a little less than half of
the season and when healthy he caught a total of three passes.
Cooper started off the year semi-promising and then proceeded to
fall off a cliff when he Leon Lett-ed himself against Pittsburgh
and became cursed. He gave up significant yardage or a touchdown
every single time he saw the field for the rest of the season. I
will admit that I was a huge fan of the Marcus Cooper signing. I
thought he could be the play-making, interception producing
cornerback that the Bears desperately needed. I could not have
been more wrong.
For his ungodly horrendous fumble alone, Cooper belongs not on
the Bears’ roster but in the Pit of Misery.
Dilly Dilly!
Verdict: Cut Both
Willie Young (OLB), Cap Hit: $5.4 Million, Dead Money: $900,000
A rare holdover and somewhat successful signing from the
godforsaken Phil Emery era, outside linebacker and fishing
aficionado Willie Young, was re-upped by Ryan Pace and company
with a two-year extension in June of 2016. He responded with a
productive seven and a half sack season in a part-time role in
2016 before missing most of last season with a torn triceps.
With McPhee likely gone, the only other outside linebacker under
contract for the Bears is Leonard Floyd, who has monstrous
potential but has not been able to stay healthy. Neither has
Young, but he’s worth bringing back for depth purposes.
Verdict: Keep
Kevin White (WR), Cap Hit: $5.3 Million, Dead Money: $5.3
Million
White has been best known for his complete inability to stay on
the field since being drafted seventh overall in 2015. Now in
the final year of his rookie contract, White should get one last
chance to contribute to the Bears. However, the mistake that
they made last season was approaching the offseason with the
expectation that he would.
Obviously, that backfired in a disastrous way. They should
expect nothing from White but hope for the best, especially
because they don’t save any money by letting him go.
Verdict: Keep
Jerrell Freeman (ILB), Cap Hit: $4 Million, Dead Money: $500,000
After the 2016 season, Freeman had supposedly established
himself as one of the leaders and top tacklers on an up and
coming Bears defense. Even after a four-game PED suspension
towards the end of the year. That all went down the drain when
he found himself on IR after just one week with a pectoral
injury. Later he was suspended another ten games for a repeat
PED violation.
I don’t want to speculate but he seems to be in a pretty bad
place, and I hope the Bears and the league give him all the help
that he needs. However, that help should not include a roster
spot.
Verdict: Cut
Unrestricted Free Agents
(i.e. not including Cameron Meredith and other former UDFAs who
are now restricted, free agents. It also does not include Zach
Miller, who is a UFA. I wish him the absolute best with his
recovery, and it was a catch.)
Prince Amukamara (CB)
Amukamara was a bit of a consolation prize for the Bears after
missing out on free agent cornerbacks Stephon Gilmore and A.J.
Bouye, both of whom they pursued. He had minor injury issues at
the beginning of the year but came back and didn’t play like a
superstar (zero interceptions, a defense-leading seven
penalties) but he was solid enough to warrant coming back for
another year.
If they view a free agent corner who produces turnovers to be an
upgrade, or if they particularly like one who will be available
through the draft, they should take a shot at an upgrade. For
now, Amukamara stays.
Verdict: Re-Sign
Dontrelle Inman (WR)
After a promising start to the Dontrelle Inman era, the
mid-season trade acquisition from the Chargers disappeared. He
produced in garbage time against the Eagles and Vikings but
outside of his first two games, Inman did not contribute enough
nor does he have reliable enough hands to warrant an extension.
He essentially played the role that Cameron Meredith would have
played had he not torn up his knee in a preseason game. Luckily,
he did not reach the threshold of 25 receptions that would have
forced the Bears to give Los Angeles a seventh-round pick for
his services.
He is not worth bringing back.
Verdict: Cut
Kendall Wright (WR)
Wright quickly established himself as Trubisky’s favorite
target. That’s not saying much, given that his second option was
usually Joshua Bellamy in a very forgettable year for the Bears’
receiving corps. Wright, however, served as Trubisky’s go-to guy
out of the slot when the Bears needed a first down, like in
overtime against Baltimore. He also proved adept at running
those run-pass options that new Head Coach Matt Nagy features in
his offense.
The Bears should bring back at least one receiver who has the
trust of their young quarterback and Wright should be that guy.
Verdict: Keep (Re-sign)
Kyle Fuller (CB)
Count me in the group of people who didn’t think that Fuller was
worth a roster spot last season and had crow for lunch on most
Sundays. Fuller responded to missing the entire 2016 season and
the Bears signing multiple replacement options with his best
year by far.
Was his performance in 2017 enough to give him a long-term
extension as a number one corner? In my opinion, no. He needs to
continue to prove himself. This is what the franchise tag is
for. It’s a lot of money, but only for one year and the Bears
have plenty of cap space.
Let Fuller prove that 2017 was not a fluke, then lock him up if
he does.
Verdict: Franchise Tag
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Re: 2018 Chicago Bears
By: WshflThinking Date: January 26, 2018, 3:15 pm
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[B]Verdict: Franchise Tag[/B]
That'll make Dallas happy.
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Re: 2018 Chicago Bears
By: dallasbear Date: January 26, 2018, 3:52 pm
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Possible Cuts
Mike Glennon (QB), 2018 Cap Hit: $16 million, Dead Money: $4.5
million
Verdict: Cut (Agree)
Josh Sitton (G), Cap Hit: $8.6 Million, Dead Money: $666,668
Verdict: Keep (Agree - he's got another year and he's coming off
an ankle sprain - and the guy on the other side is the one I'm
more concerned about)
Pernell McPhee (OLB), Cap Hit: $8.1 Million, Dead Money: $1
Million
Verdict: Cut (Yeah, or maybe re-do his deal if he passes a
physical)
Dion Sims (TE), Cap Hit: $6.3 Million, Dead Money: $666,667
Verdict: Cut (I guess - we do have 3 TEs but all are receiver
types)
Bobby Massie (RT), Cap Hit: $6.1 Million, Dead Money: $500,000
Verdict: Cut (Massie gave up 6 sacks not 7...this is pretty much
in line with a typical Massie season - he struggles a bit on
fast surfaces but who you going to plug into RT role? We don't
even have a swing tackle) I'd keep him another year and
draft/sign his replacement
Markus Wheaton (WR) and Marcus Cooper (CB), Cap Hit: $5.8 and
$5.5 million, Dead Money: $750,000 and $1 Million
Verdict: Cut Both (Wheaton was so underutilized and I have no
explanation - but I agree )
Willie Young (OLB), Cap Hit: $5.4 Million, Dead Money: $900,000
Verdict: Keep (no brainer)
Kevin White (WR), Cap Hit: $5.3 Million, Dead Money: $5.3
Million
Verdict: Keep (no brainer)
Jerrell Freeman (ILB), Cap Hit: $4 Million, Dead Money: $500,000
Verdict: Cut (He's the best MLB on the team - I'd do some
research on the PED thing but I like him)
Prince Amukamara (CB)
Verdict: Re-Sign (solid guy but he was in the top 10 as most
penalized corners in the NFL and rarely intercepts the ball- if
we cut Cooper and Fuller's status is up in the air - Bears might
have to get 3 or 4 new corners)
Dontrelle Inman (WR)
Verdict: Cut (Bring him to camp with Meridith, White, Inman, and
Wright and bring on 2 or 3 more new faces - let the best men
win)
Kendall Wright (WR)
Verdict: Keep (Re-sign - he's so slow but he gets open on those
short routes)
Kyle Fuller (CB)
Verdict: Franchise Tag (he's 25 and it's not like he was
horrible in 2014 and 2015 - the entire defense was epicly bad
back then - sign him long term)
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Re: 2018 Chicago Bears
By: dallasbear Date: January 26, 2018, 4:20 pm
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Helfrich, for his part, indicated he feels good about the
linemen Hiestand has at his disposal. He singled out tackles
Charles Leno (26 years old) and Bobby Massie (28) in explaining
why he believes the Bears are close to being successful.
Specifically, he referred to quarterback Mitch Trubisky’s
supporting cast.
But...but...Massie needs to be replaced??? I mean, I can go
and pull a RT out of my a$$ that's better than he is....
Massie, meanwhile, is under contract for next season at a modest
price. He is scheduled to earn a non-guaranteed base salary of
$4.25 million, and he has a $1 million roster bonus due March
16.
Not saying he can't be upgraded. But you better have a bonafide
replacement in free agency cuz you don't want to go into a draft
with no RT.
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