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       #Post#: 330024--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cubs in '18
   DIR By: CUBluejays
       Date: November 9, 2017, 1:16 pm
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       Yes he was Renteria's bench coach and previously was the bench
       coach for the Marlins as well.  I think he started out in the
       front office with the Cubs, but moved back into coaching.  A lot
       of the Cubs minor league instructors at one time had times to
       him as well.
  HTML http://www.cubsinsider.com/2017/11/09/notes-jed-hoyers-discussion-cubs-offseason-strategy-spiegel-parkins/
       #Post#: 330054--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cubs in '18
   DIR By: brjones
       Date: November 9, 2017, 7:52 pm
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       Jon Heyman released his top 80 free agents today with
       predictions by both him and an "expert," who is apparently
       pretty good at predicting contracts.  Here is the full article:
  HTML https://www.fanragsports.com/inside-baseball-how-much-will-the-top-80-free-agents-get/
       The relief market looks good and affordable, no reason to go
       after Davis:
       Wade Davis: Expert: 4/$64; Heyman: 4/$72
       Addison Reed: Expert: 4/$35; Heyman: 3/$27
       Jake McGee: Expert: 2/$15; Heyman: 2/$12
       Bryan Shaw: Expert: 2/$12; Heyman: 3/$24
       Juan Nicasio: Expert: 2/$14; Heyman: 2/$12
       Anthony Swarzak: Expert: 4/$28; Heyman: 3/$21
       Brandon Morrow: Expert: 3/$23; Heyman: 3/$24
       Lots of options, and this doesn't even include guys like Neshek,
       Minor, and Watson.  If those prices are fairly accurate, I'd
       love to see the Cubs get McGee, Reed, and either Shaw or Nicasio
       for a total of about $21 million per year.  In fact, at those
       prices, I'd be disappointed if the Cubs didn't end up with at
       least McGee and Shaw/Nicasio.
       #Post#: 330055--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cubs in '18
   DIR By: CUBluejays
       Date: November 9, 2017, 7:57 pm
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       If they are close on Cobb’s market then a big no for me.
       McGee, Shaw and Nicasio would be my choices at those
       prices/years. I like the idea of Reed, but he scares me.
       #Post#: 330056--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cubs in '18
   DIR By: brjones
       Date: November 9, 2017, 7:59 pm
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       At those prices, I don't think there's really a wrong solution
       as long as they stay away from Davis and Holland.  I'd be
       perfectly fine with going into Spring Training with 2-3 of
       McGee, Shaw, Nicasio, and Reed plus Wilson in a battle for the
       closer job.
       #Post#: 330058--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cubs in '18
   DIR By: brjones
       Date: November 9, 2017, 8:05 pm
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       Also, I wouldn't hate Cobb at Heyman's price (4 years, $58
       million).  But the expert's 5/$75 would be awful--might as well
       pay the extra money for Darvish and fill the 5th spot very cheap
       if you're going to commit that much to Cobb.
       #Post#: 330059--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cubs in '18
   DIR By: CUBluejays
       Date: November 9, 2017, 8:29 pm
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       You have the expert and Heyman reversed.
       I really wouldn’t want to pay Cobb that much at either price to
       be honest, he needs to be under $50 million for me to like it.
       Chacin/Chatwood would be more interesting to me especially if
       you could get both. Tillman/Mikolas/Miley would all be sorta
       gambles for 5/6th starters. Put me down for a 2 year Pineda
       contract too.
       Mike Minor is another interesting lefty, but the 2 TJS are
       scary.
       Drew Hutchison on a minor league deals too, and maybe Jared
       Cosart.
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       Re: Cubs in '18
   DIR By: davep
       Date: November 9, 2017, 10:09 pm
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       I would go for Cobb at 4 / 58, although under 50 would be
       obviously much better.
       #Post#: 330063--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cubs in '18
   DIR By: JR
       Date: November 9, 2017, 10:13 pm
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       Maybe I’m crazy, but I could see someone paying $100 million for
       Cobb.  Quality pitching is tough to find especially in free
       agency.
       #Post#: 330064--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cubs in '18
   DIR By: CurtOne
       Date: November 9, 2017, 10:54 pm
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       Maybe?
       #Post#: 330065--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cubs in '18
   DIR By: CUBluejays
       Date: November 9, 2017, 11:08 pm
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       Just from listening to Hoyer on the radio, it sure sounds like
       the Cubs want to keep money available for 2018 FA. I think
       they’ll go cheap and look more for Charlie Morton 2.0.
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