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#Post#: 329909--------------------------------------------------
Re: Cubs in '18
DIR By: brjones
Date: November 7, 2017, 3:52 pm
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--- Quote from: craig link ---
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> Yeah, good points. Is there a FA leadoff guy available? If
so, I haven't been thinking of him.
>
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I think the closest thing to a leadoff guy on the market is
Lorenzo Cain. He wouldn't be bad--he hit .300/.363/.440 in
2017--but I'm not sure he's going to be worth what he's going to
get paid in his 32-35 year old seasons. Still, he wouldn't be
the worst fit.
I'm going to keep beating the Yelich drum until the roster is
settled. He's been a consistent 4.5 fWAR guy over the past 4
years--he's more of an impact guy than people realize. The
Marlins are publicly stating they're not going to trade
him...but I think that's a negotiating ploy. If they're dealing
Stanton, it's hard to believe they'd hold anyone on the team
back if they got players that they wanted.
--- Quote from: craig link ---
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> I know Cubs have pitching problems. But I'm a huge believer
that a consistent, high-scoring offense can cover up a multitude
of sins. And I think it actually can make pitchers better.
Pitching with a lead, or with the expectation that team will
come back and score runs even if you give up a solo-HR, would
seem to have a freeing influence, and allow guys to throw more
strikes rather than needing to nibble so much. Which seemed to
be very much the Lester/Q/Montgomery/Arrieta approach as
starters, and the Bosio/Contreras approach with the bullpen guys
as well.
>
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I agree with this. Plus, I'm not convinced the Cubs' pitching
problems are as bad as they're being made out to be. I think
people are judging the loss of Arrieta, Lackey, and Davis in
terms of their reputations, not their actual performance. Those
three guys combined for a total of 4 fWAR this year--upgrading
over that is not hard. They're going to make up more than half
of that WAR just by having Quintana on the roster all year. Add
Cobb, a 5th starter who can eat 150+ innings with a 4.00ish ERA,
and two of the second tier relievers (Reed, Shaw, McGee, Morrow,
Minor, Swarzak, or Nicasio), and the 2018 pitching staff is
likely significantly better than the 2017 version.
#Post#: 329910--------------------------------------------------
Re: Cubs in '18
DIR By: DelMarFan
Date: November 7, 2017, 3:53 pm
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Does Heyward have a no-trade? Zobrist and at least one more do,
as I recall.
#Post#: 329912--------------------------------------------------
Re: Cubs in '18
DIR By: brjones
Date: November 7, 2017, 3:56 pm
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Yeah, Heyward has a no trade.
So does Melancon. So does Samardzija, though his is limited to
22 teams (and the Cubs weren't one of the restricted teams at
midseason).
#Post#: 329918--------------------------------------------------
Re: Cubs in '18
DIR By: JeffH
Date: November 7, 2017, 4:07 pm
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Given what you know about them so far, would you offer any of
the non-Bryant young Cubs the Anthony Rizzo contract this
offseason? How about if you had to bump the 2020-and-beyond
values by $2-3 million per?
18:$0.75M, 19:$1.25M, 20:$5M, 21:$5M, 22:$7M, 23:$7M, 24:$11M,
25:$14.5M club option (or $2M buyout), 26:$14.5M club option (or
$2M buyout)
#Post#: 329920--------------------------------------------------
Re: Cubs in '18
DIR By: davep
Date: November 7, 2017, 4:14 pm
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I would offer that contract to Russell, Baez and Contreras. I
would seriously consider offering it to Happ, and I wouldn't
totally rule it out for Schwarber, depending upon the views of
the scouting department and medical doctors.
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Re: Cubs in '18
DIR By: Playtwo
Date: November 7, 2017, 4:14 pm
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The Giants have serious OF problems, and Heyward would be a real
asset for them defensively. Samardzija would be a nice fit for
the Cubs. Not sure how to make a trade work, though, even
forgetting about the no trade clause.
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Re: Cubs in '18
DIR By: JeffH
Date: November 7, 2017, 4:29 pm
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How about if you had to take Cueto instead of Samardzija?
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Re: Cubs in '18
DIR By: CUBluejays
Date: November 7, 2017, 5:11 pm
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Samardzija over Cueto.
The Cubs pay money and tell Heyward he's a great guy and it
didn't work out. If he stays with the Cubs he'll be Zobrist and
Almora's back up.
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Re: Cubs in '18
DIR By: brjones
Date: November 7, 2017, 5:29 pm
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--- Quote from: CUBluejays link ---
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> If he stays with the Cubs he'll be Zobrist and Almora's back
up.
>
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Similarly, Sam Dyson was really effective for the Giants last
year outside of his last two games in September. If the Giants
told Melancon he had to win the closer's job back, he might be
more willing to move on.
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Re: Cubs in '18
DIR By: Chris27
Date: November 7, 2017, 5:35 pm
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Think that's a pretty fair trade considering the loss of
Heyward's defense would be pretty stark depending on his
replacement. Only real problem with Samardzija--and it's not a
small one--is he allows a lot of home runs despite his home
games in AT&T park.
Heyward's owed 12M more over the three years Samardzija has
left, but the Cubs would be out from under the last 65M of
Heyward's deal.
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