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Re: Cubs in '18
DIR By: CUBluejays
Date: November 3, 2017, 7:43 pm
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--- Quote from: JeffH link ---
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> What would a Cubs-Rays trade involving Brent Honeywell look
like?
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> Pipe dream?
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Most likely, the Rays don’t trade guys when they are cheap. I’ve
wonder what Happ is worth in a trade and so far from various
chats people seem to think he’s worth a lot. The most recent
question was Happ for Teheran and the chatter through the was
worth more. I wonder how much the Cubs are interested in a guy
with little experience for the rotation too.
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Re: Cubs in '18
DIR By: guest61
Date: November 3, 2017, 7:50 pm
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--- Quote from: Deeg link ---
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> What a coincidence.
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It has nothing to do with anything but facts.
Japanese pitchers are usually ragged out before they even get
here and Tanaka or Darvish havent done anything to prove me
wrong.
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Re: Cubs in '18
DIR By: brjones
Date: November 3, 2017, 8:08 pm
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Darvish is 18th out of 277 qualified starters in fWAR since he
started his career in 2012 (between Arrieta at 17th and
Samardzija at 19th). He's 50th out of 277 in innings pitched.
Tanaka is 22nd out of 177 qualified starters in fWAR since he
joined the Yankees in 2014 (between Hamels and Hendricks). He's
39th in innings pitched.
There are good reasons to want to avoid them at this point in
their careers--Tanaka's elbow is questionable, and Darvish is
going to get paid like a surefire ace when he's really more of a
#2 at this point. But they've earned more than what they've
been paid since coming to MLB.
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Re: Cubs in '18
DIR By: guest61
Date: November 3, 2017, 8:15 pm
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I just now looked at the free agent starting pitchers in this
class and Ill stand by my stance.
If Arietta and Darvish are the headliners I think we're all in
agreement that we want to stay away from Boras and Arietta and I
dont want to pay Darvish what he's gonna expect with him only
being 2 years removed from TJS.
Sign the second tier starter that you like best and then maybe a
lottery ticket SP for insurance and spend the rest on the pen.
I bet we're looking more at the trade market.
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Re: Cubs in '18
DIR By: Jes Beard
Date: November 5, 2017, 10:34 am
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> Didnt want Tanaka.
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> Dont want Darvish either.
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> Ill take Arietta over both of them and Im not 100% certain I
want him back.
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The chance of keeping Arrieta just fell with Tanaka's decision,
and will fall even more if Darvish enter the FA market. With
both of them off the market, Arrieta's price would rise
considerably, and the Cubs' effort to resign him will
correspondingly fall with his increased contract demands.
In other words, if you really want the Cubs to keep Arrieta, it
is much better if Darvish and Tanaka were both entering free
agency.
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Re: Cubs in '18
DIR By: Deeg
Date: November 5, 2017, 5:13 pm
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Mark Feinsand‏Verified account @Feinsand 22m22 minutes
ago
More
Hearing Rays are likely to make a qualifying offer to Alex Cobb.
Not surprising after strong season (179 IP, 3.66) 1st full yr
post-surgery.
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Re: Cubs in '18
DIR By: CUBluejays
Date: November 5, 2017, 5:47 pm
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So that would mean the Cubs would lose their second round pick
and $500,000 of IFA money to sign him, but if his contract is
less than $50 million ion guareented money vale the Rays get
nothing.
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Re: Cubs in '18
DIR By: Ron
Date: November 6, 2017, 12:22 pm
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Sharma on Javy Baez.
HTML https://theathletic.com/147403/2017/11/06/examining-trade-chips-in-cubs-quest-to-solidify-rotation-javier-baez/
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Re: Cubs in '18
DIR By: Dave23
Date: November 6, 2017, 12:55 pm
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How many here subscribe to The Athletic?
Money well spent?
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Re: Cubs in '18
DIR By: CurtOne
Date: November 6, 2017, 1:39 pm
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If we subscribe, does that make us an Athletic supporter?
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