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Re: Cubs Draft 2017
By: CurtOne Date: June 11, 2017, 12:53 pm
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Yes
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Re: Cubs Draft 2017
By: Reb Date: June 11, 2017, 1:59 pm
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[quote author=davep link=topic=488.msg312849#msg312849
date=1497194511]
I didn't make myself clear. Certainly, the MLB has the
authority to punish a person for mere allegations. What I was
saying was that no one SHOULD have the legal right, and
certainly not the moral right, to punish someone over mere
allegations of illegal activity. Specifically, neither the MLB
nor the team should suspend, fire or fine someone for illegal
activity if the legal authorities do not have the evidence or
the will to prosecute.
[/quote]
The legal authorities have to work under very different
standards and procedures than does a private association--as
they should given that the former have power to incarcerate. The
bar to prosecute is much higher--- as it must be. Way, way more
complex and more factors to consider on all sides.
MLB can and should have a lower bar. No reason MLB should not
scrutinize independently any factual scenario that impacts its
business and its own standards, irrespective of the state legal
process.
If the factual scenario pertains to a person covered by the cba,
then there is another layer of scutiny and protection for the
accused. This is a big reason for unionizing in the private
sector. Covered persons get a form of industrial justice that
otherwise would be left to unfettered discretion of management,
here, the Commissioner.
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Re: Cubs Draft 2017
By: Reb Date: June 11, 2017, 2:35 pm
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New Keith Law mock out today.
Surprisingly, Law has Cubs selecting the Oregon State pitcher in
the first round!
No, not that Oregon State pitcher.
This guy:
Drew Rasmussen
Oregon State
I think the Cubs would prefer to take a pitcher here, but they
won't force the issue if they don't love the options. Rasmussen
could have gone higher than this, had he been healthy all
spring, but he missed half the year as he recovered from 2016
Tommy John surgery.
#Post#: 312883--------------------------------------------------
Re: Cubs Draft 2017
By: Jes Beard Date: June 11, 2017, 3:40 pm
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Good thing Ron LeFlore didn't have to deal with the current PC
climate.
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Re: Cubs Draft 2017
By: CUBluejays Date: June 11, 2017, 3:57 pm
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Law's guy has been 95-97 and ranked 100ish from the public
rankings I saw. If he is the underslot guy that could be
interesting.
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Re: Cubs Draft 2017
By: davep Date: June 11, 2017, 5:01 pm
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[quote author=Reb link=topic=488.msg312870#msg312870
date=1497207555]
The legal authorities have to work under very different
standards and procedures than does a private association--as
they should given that the former have power to incarcerate. The
bar to prosecute is much higher--- as it must be. Way, way more
complex and more factors to consider on all sides.
MLB can and should have a lower bar. No reason MLB should not
scrutinize independently any factual scenario that impacts its
business and its own standards, irrespective of the state legal
process.
If the factual scenario pertains to a person covered by the cba,
then there is another layer of scutiny and protection for the
accused. This is a big reason for unionizing in the private
sector. Covered persons get a form of industrial justice that
otherwise would be left to unfettered discretion of management,
here, the Commissioner.
[/quote]
If you are going to punish a person based for an act, the bar
SHOULD be high.
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Re: Cubs Draft 2017
By: CUBluejays Date: June 11, 2017, 10:38 pm
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Cubs have had work outs at Wrigley with Drew Fischer, RPH,
Armhurst college who is from Illinois and hit 95 as a Sophmore.
Spencer Strider, RHP, Clemson commit who is too 200ish, another
short atheltic righty with a big fastball. Manuel from BA is
also saying Dalton Varsho had an impressive work out with the
Cubs.
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Re: Cubs Draft 2017
By: Reb Date: June 11, 2017, 11:05 pm
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Varsho was a Cubs pick in one of the recent mocks. Would be
interesting if Cubs took a catcher in 1st round.
This is from today's BA draft notebook:
There are a few teams interested in Wisconsin-Milwaukee catcher
Daulton Varsho (No. 100) on the first day of the draft. Some
teams believe Varsho can stick behind the plate and are
enthusiastic about his offensive upside, while others see him
moving to left field and are hesitant to bite given his small
sample of performance against quality pitching.
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Re: Cubs Draft 2017
By: Reb Date: June 12, 2017, 3:52 am
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Callis/Mayo:
27. Cubs
Mayo: Nick Allen, SS, Parker HS (San Diego) - I've had Allen in
this spot pretty much from the get-go and I see no reason to
change course now.
Callis: Tanner Houck, RHP, Missouri - Chicago needs pitching
much more than hitting and could grab two college arms with its
multiple first-rounders. Coming into the year, the Cubs wouldn't
have expected a shot at Houck, who originally projected as a
top-10 selection.
30. Cubs (Compensation pick for Fowler signing with the
Cardinals)
Mayo: Sam Carlson, RHP, Burnsville (Minn.) - Carlson is one of
those high school arms who could go much higher based on talent,
but could settle down to the bottom of the round as prep
right-handers often do.
Callis: Drew Rasmussen, RHP, Oregon State - Rasmussen also has
come back nicely this spring, hitting 98 mph after having Tommy
John surgery in March 2016. If Chicago wants a position player,
it could snag California high school shortstop Nick Allen, the
Draft's top defender.
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Re: Cubs Draft 2017
By: CurtOne Date: June 12, 2017, 1:43 pm
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I think teams should evaluate where they would have taken
Heimlich had the information on his juvenile record not been
disclosed and that's where to leave him on the board. Certainly
they should thoroughly check his current state of mind, but my
sense of fairness is that he shouldn't be punished for something
nobody was supposed to know.
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