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       #Post#: 297654--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cubs in '17 - 👑👑👑 Reigning Champions
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   DIR By: ben
       Date: November 16, 2016, 5:47 pm
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       Scherzer wins Cy Young by a big margin.  Hendricks 2nd.  No
       doubt, the fact that Scherzer had about 40 more innings pitched
       than Kyle was a big factor.
       On MLB Network this a.m., it was noted that IF Hendricks had
       pitched the exact number of innings as Scherzer AND Kyle had
       averaged a FULL earned run for every one of the 40 or whatever
       innings Scherzer had over him, Kyle's ERA would still have been
       below Scherzer's.
       Scherzer is tremendous.  An ace.  And Kyle Hendricks was better
       this year!   (the real question is whether Hendricks was better
       than Lester, who was other-worldly from the 2nd half on)
       Doesn't much matter...our Cubs have the rings!!!.
       #Post#: 297655--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cubs in '17 - 👑👑👑 Reigning Champions
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   DIR By: Deeg
       Date: November 16, 2016, 6:00 pm
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       Hendricks and Lester probably split the vote to some extent.
       Honestly, I would have voted for Lester.  But Scherzer winning
       is not a travesty.  In the end we got the only thing that really
       matters, the WS trophy.
       Though, I think we can expect Bryant to take home some
       hardware...
       #Post#: 297656--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cubs in '17 - 👑👑👑 Reigning Champions
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   DIR By: Reb
       Date: November 16, 2016, 6:25 pm
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       --- Quote from: Deeg link ---
       >
       > Hendricks and Lester probably split the vote to some extent.
       Honestly, I would have voted for Lester.  But Scherzer winning
       is not a travesty....
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Scherzer got 25 of the 30 first place votes. Lester and
       Hendricks got three combined. Only way that Hendricks/Lester
       "split votes" could have affected anything is if voters torn
       between Lester and Hendricks opted to vote for Scherzer
       instead---as a compromise vote---which is far-fetched.
       Voters preferred Scherzer, period.
       #Post#: 297660--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cubs in '17 - 👑👑👑 Reigning Champions
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   DIR By: Deeg
       Date: November 16, 2016, 7:34 pm
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       If you say so, it must be true.
       #Post#: 297663--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cubs in '17 - 👑👑👑 Reigning Champions
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   DIR By: davep
       Date: November 16, 2016, 8:37 pm
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       Lots of talk among Pittsburgh talk show that they will try to
       trade Andrew McCutcheon this winter.  They should get a ton for
       him.
       #Post#: 297664--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cubs in '17 - 👑👑👑 Reigning Champions
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   DIR By: Reb
       Date: November 16, 2016, 8:39 pm
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       --- Quote from: Deeg link ---
       >
       > If you say so, it must be true.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Why don't you explain how vote splitting as to Lester and
       Hendricks could have affected the final vote for Scherzer,
       instead of making snide remarks.
       #Post#: 297665--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cubs in '17 - 👑👑👑 Reigning Champions
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   DIR By: Chris27
       Date: November 16, 2016, 9:13 pm
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       You can't really split a vote among individual players in MLB.
       It's not like teams are vying for the awards with players
       representing them.
       On the award itself, I found it odd how so many broadcasters
       were calling either Hendricks or Lester the probable CY winner
       during the playoffs. It seemed obvious to me that the baseball
       media had made Scherzer the heavy favorite two months ago,
       putting it into everyone's head that he deserved it.
       #Post#: 297667--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cubs in '17 - 👑👑👑 Reigning Champions
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   DIR By: Jes Beard
       Date: November 16, 2016, 9:52 pm
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       --- Quote from: craig link ---
       >
       > *3.   The controlled SP you get in trade don't come with big
       contracts.  Especially not the types that are available in
       exchange for Happ or Szczur or Candelario type prospects.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       The reason they don't come with big contracts is because the
       controlled SP available in exchange for Happ or Szczur or
       Candelario type prospects tend not to be very good.
       #Post#: 297668--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cubs in '17 - 👑👑👑 Reigning Champions
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   DIR By: Jes Beard
       Date: November 16, 2016, 10:19 pm
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       --- Quote from: Deeg link ---
       >
       > If you say so, it must be true.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Under what imaginable scenario would it NOT be true?
       When the winner gets 25 of 30 first place votes, how could the
       2nd and 3rd place finishers possibly have "split the vote" in
       such a way as to make any difference?
       Aren't you one of those who periodically makes cracks about how
       one or another other posters always have to be right and can't
       admit when they are wrong?
       #Post#: 297673--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cubs in '17 - 👑👑👑 Reigning Champions
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   DIR By: craig
       Date: November 16, 2016, 10:39 pm
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       In the unlikely event that arb decisions were at all impacted by
       Cy Young awards, Hendricks not getting it won't hurt the Cubs
       budget.
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