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       #Post#: 297476--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cubs in '17 - 👑👑👑 Reigning Champions
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   DIR By: CurtOne
       Date: November 14, 2016, 12:38 pm
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       No on Cashner.  Let him interest someone else.
       #Post#: 297478--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cubs in '17 - 👑👑👑 Reigning Champions
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   DIR By: craig
       Date: November 14, 2016, 12:47 pm
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       --- Quote from: ticohans link ---
       >
       > ..... given the front office's apparent unwillingness to
       pursue a top dollar closer via FA. Not sure what to make of
       that, yet. Would love to reload for 2017 with Jansen or Chapman,
       but the flip side is that relievers *are* so enigmatic, that I
       understand the reluctance to fork over near 9 figures on a
       closer, no matter how good. If we aren't signing a top flight
       FA, really hoping to see some serious dough spent signing our
       core to extensions.
       --- End Quote ---
       1.  Hard for me to imagine any of our core wanting to sign
       extensions.  Other than Arrieta.  And Arrieta's a Boras boy, so
       doubt he's too interested in doing anything home-town-discount.
       Maybe Strop or Rondon; but not sure you're thinking of them as
       "core", and with Rondon's arm and bad finish, not sure this is
       the time for either side to do extension.
       2.  You mention "apparent unwillingness to pursue a top dollar
       closer".  Interesting, I haven't heard/read that or gotten that
       indication.  There have been so many articles and interviews,
       I'm sure I've missed lots.  Which of the guys expressed apparent
       unwillingness to sign top closer, and how clearly/strongly?
       I'd thought a Hoyer response last week was pretty clear that
       they WOULD talk about Chapman; that they like Chapman a lot; and
       that they certainly WOULD NOT just go with Rondon/Edwards/Strop
       for closing.
       3.  Not arguing, but it's kind of funny that you're interested
       in signing Hill rather than closer because relievers are so
       enigmatic; when Hill enigmaticed his way through the minors for
       14 years before finally getting called up for good late in his
       age-35 season.  When a guy didn't really find himself till age
       35, I wonder how long it's safe that he'll stay found?  It's a
       great story.
       #Post#: 297479--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cubs in '17 - 👑👑👑 Reigning Champions
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   DIR By: DelMarFan
       Date: November 14, 2016, 12:49 pm
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       Just for Curt:  who do you dislike more?  Samardz or Cashner?
       #Post#: 297480--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cubs in '17 - 👑👑👑 Reigning Champions
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   DIR By: craig
       Date: November 14, 2016, 12:57 pm
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       This is going to be a tough off-season for us fans, I think.
       Last year we knew they had some money to burn, and were going to
       make some moves for pitching.  We ended up with five big moves
       that actually happened, (four big FA's plus Castro trade), plus
       endless discussion about the Soler(Baez)-for-pitching trade
       ideas that never happened.
       Hoyer might not be nearly as active this winter, and
       Candelario-for-Pitcher discussions won't be nearly as
       interesting as last year.
       #Post#: 297481--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cubs in '17 - 👑👑👑 Reigning Champions
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   DIR By: DelMarFan
       Date: November 14, 2016, 1:11 pm
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       --- Quote ---
       > This is going to be a tough off-season for us fans, I think.
       --- End Quote ---
       Yeah, all those parades to attend.  That whole month of October
       that actually wasn't off-season for us like it usually is.
       Figuring out how to improve a 103-win baseball club.  Figuring
       out how to create playing time for all of these excellent young
       players.  Talk about First World Problems. . . (but I know what
       you meant, Craig).
       #Post#: 297483--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cubs in '17 - 👑👑👑 Reigning Champions
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   DIR By: Playtwo
       Date: November 14, 2016, 1:29 pm
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       I don't expect the Cubs to seriously pursue Chapman, Jansen, or
       Melancon.
       #Post#: 297485--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cubs in '17 - 👑👑👑 Reigning Champions
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   DIR By: Deeg
       Date: November 14, 2016, 1:57 pm
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       --- Quote from: craig link ---
       >
       > This is going to be a tough off-season for us fans, I think.
       Last year we knew they had some money to burn, and were going to
       make some moves for pitching.  We ended up with five big moves
       that actually happened, (four big FA's plus Castro trade), plus
       endless discussion about the Soler(Baez)-for-pitching trade
       ideas that never happened.
       >
       > Hoyer might not be nearly as active this winter, and
       Candelario-for-Pitcher discussions won't be nearly as
       interesting as last year.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Hoyer will be plenty active.  Theo is still going to need
       coffee.
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       Re: Cubs in '17 - 👑👑👑 Reigning Champions
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   DIR By: CurtOne
       Date: November 14, 2016, 1:59 pm
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       DMF, Cashner.
       #Post#: 297488--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cubs in '17 - 👑👑👑 Reigning Champions
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   DIR By: guest61
       Date: November 14, 2016, 2:01 pm
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       I was around Andrew Cashner a lot back in the day and he was a
       real good dude.
       A country boy like Lackey and Lester.
       He drove a jacked up truck and listened to country music.
       #Post#: 297491--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cubs in '17 - 👑👑👑 Reigning Champions
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   DIR By: EightyTwo
       Date: November 14, 2016, 2:24 pm
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       The Cubs at Cardinals opener has been moved from Monday to
       Sunday.
  HTML http://fox2now.com/2016/11/14/cubs-vs-cardinals-2017-season-opener-moved-to-april-2/
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