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       #Post#: 300530--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2017 NFL Draft
   DIR By: Dave23
       Date: January 2, 2017, 7:33 pm
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       Adoree Jackson injury is ankle, not knee...thankfully!
       #Post#: 300539--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2017 NFL Draft
   DIR By: Grizzlybear34
       Date: January 3, 2017, 6:02 am
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       It will be interesting picking at 3.  I hear the chatter, but
       every year the top 2 QBs bubble to the top of the draft.  So the
       Bears could be looking at one of the 3 QBs we are talking about
       AND the top 2 defensive picks (as well as every other position)
       at number 3.  They may actually have this best opportunity to
       trade down.
       Cannot see the Browns trading the top pick, the 49ers may - both
       need QBs.  The 49ers are completely flushing their front office
       which may put them in the mood to deal.
       #Post#: 300542--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2017 NFL Draft
   DIR By: WshflThinking
       Date: January 3, 2017, 7:40 am
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       Didn't the 9ers draft a QB last year?
       #Post#: 300567--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2017 NFL Draft
   DIR By: Jackiejokeman
       Date: January 3, 2017, 6:49 pm
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       27th against the pass in 2016. CHICAGO DEFENSE.
       Pass happy tossers like :
       Rodgers
       Matthews
       Bradford/Bridgewater ...
       hope we pick some strange at QB ...
       keeping their jobs secure as we pass on SHUTDOWN CORNERBACKS
       in the higher rounds.
       The flavor of the month club kicks into high gear at QB among
       BEARS fans as :
       year after year we fall into the trap that it's a QB that's
       needed...
       When NOTHING IN THE PAST 30 YEARS ... has proven that to be
       right.  >:(
       If you can recall the 2006 BEARS ... with a rookie and a gimped
       QB ...
       DEFENSE got us to DANCE !
       The SAME as The 1985 BEARRSSE !
       SHUTDOWN CORNERBACKS in 2017 draft ?
       GIMME TWO !! with cole slaw & french fries ... and a strawberry
       malt.  :D
       #Post#: 300605--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2017 NFL Draft
   DIR By: WshflThinking
       Date: January 4, 2017, 5:35 pm
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       From Wikipedia:
       [B]Mahomes announced on January 3, 2017 that he would forego his
       last year of college eligibility and enter the NFL draft[/B]
       #Post#: 300621--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2017 NFL Draft
   DIR By: dallasbear
       Date: January 4, 2017, 10:06 pm
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       Tech is known for churning out system QBs that fail in the NFL:
       Four Texas Tech quarterbacks, Kliff Kingsbury, B.J. Symons,
       Graham Harrell, and Patrick Mahomes have been awarded the Sammy
       Baugh Trophy.
       And that list doesn't include Billy Joe Tolliver.
       #Post#: 300628--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2017 NFL Draft
   DIR By: joki13
       Date: January 5, 2017, 1:55 am
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       dallas I can't disagree about the system Mahomes comes
       from,but,you'd admit he's far and away the best of that list.
       He's played against big name teams and played well for the most
       part.Put him behind a competent line and watch passing records
       break.Now I'm not advocating taking any QB in the 1st round. At
       three we either go with Allen (DE) or trade down for as many
       picks as we can get. Mahomes would be good if we were to get an
       extra 2nd.
       Trading with someone like Cleveland for their #12 in the first
       and #1 and 20th in the 2nd would be ideal. However,I would
       settle for their #1 in the 3rd in exchange for their #20 in the
       2nd.
       #Post#: 300629--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2017 NFL Draft
   DIR By: dallasbear
       Date: January 5, 2017, 3:19 am
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       Being the best of that list isn't saying much.  Mahomes can't
       play in the Senior Bowl - maybe he'll be able to play in another
       all-star game like the East-West shrine game.
       #Post#: 300634--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2017 NFL Draft
   DIR By: WshflThinking
       Date: January 5, 2017, 8:36 am
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       Interesting, Dallas. I tend to agree with you about Tech. That
       will downgrade his draft position. Could mean somebody will get
       a steal, something like Dallas got with Prescott last year.. I
       think Mahomes could last till the 4th. However, just to downplay
       the Tech label, what Mahomes did against Oklahoma set NCAA
       records. What Joki said was correct, that if you put him behind
       a competent Oline which we seem to qualify and with a very good
       running back, Mahomes can be very successful. He can be as good
       as Wentz was at the beginning of the season this year. Sure he
       has to grow, but his arm is great provided his shoulder injury
       has healed. Playing in a postseason bowl game is a must IMHO. He
       needs that Shrine game. I had forgotten he was only a junior.
       The Tech label and shoulder injury is going to decrease his
       value, I just don't believe you can ignore that Oklahoma game.
       He needs that Shrine game to show his shoulder is healed. Oh and
       we have 2 4ths in the draft. Our own pick and Buffalo's which
       should be 10th. Mahomes would be good value at 3 or 10 in the
       4th round.
       Oh and one more thing. Mahomes is a junior with more games under
       his belt and tape to look at than another junior Trubisky. To me
       Trubisky has a label as being a one year wonder.
       Lets just say for grins and giggles that Mahomes lasts till the
       4th, we sure can fill a lot of defensive back needs before round
       4 and still come out with a solid draft. Right now I don't want
       to play punt, pass, and kick with Mahomes. There is still hope
       with the Shrine game and the combine to evaluate Mahomes better.
       #Post#: 300636--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2017 NFL Draft
   DIR By: davebear
       Date: January 5, 2017, 9:28 am
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       System QB's are tricky.
       Scouts look past the "system" to see if there are times the QB
       had to behave like an NFL QB making certain throws under
       pressure etc.
       You can have and NFL bust and and NFL success from that same
       system such as from Cal Kyle Boller and Aaron Rogers.
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