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Re: 2017 NFL Draft
DIR By: WshflThinking
Date: January 1, 2017, 4:41 pm
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I think you'd get the same out of Kizer you get out of Barkley.
Yes, go for Kizer so we can suck longer. Tremendous idea.
Using #3 for any QB is an error in judgment. If you are serious
about g@mbling on a QB it better be 2nd round or lower. Again I
repeat you better wait till after the combine to make up your
mind.
#Post#: 300473--------------------------------------------------
Re: 2017 NFL Draft
DIR By: davebear
Date: January 1, 2017, 6:00 pm
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That all sounds good Wishful but what are you going to do if the
Browns, Saints, Cardinals, Texans, Jets 49ers draft QB's before
the second round pick? Quite possible.
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Re: 2017 NFL Draft
DIR By: hibernationsuxs
Date: January 1, 2017, 6:38 pm
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Deshawn Watson looks like the real deal to me. He is a winner.
He almost beat Alabama in last years title game. I believe he
might beat them this year. Nick Saban says he is the most
special player since Cam Newton in SEC. I think he will be 1 or
2 this draft but if somehow he is there at 3 and the Bears pass
I think it will haunt us for a decade.
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Re: 2017 NFL Draft
DIR By: WshflThinking
Date: January 1, 2017, 7:14 pm
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--- Quote from: davebear link ---
>
> That all sounds good Wishful but what are you going to do if
the Browns, Saints, Cardinals, Texans, Jets 49ers draft QB's
before the second round pick? Quite possible.
>
--- End Quote ---
Clap heartily and laugh. Everybody else's failure is a good
thing. At least it isn't us.
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Re: 2017 NFL Draft
DIR By: dallasbear
Date: January 1, 2017, 11:38 pm
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I know little about Kizer other than when I saw him in the
opener against Texas where he played well.
He went from 2:1 TD:INT ratio to almost 3:1 this year - that
looks like some improvement. Looks like he can run and he's big
at 6-4 230.
When a 4th rounder QB in the 2016 draft clearly outplays the
overall #1 draft pick you know that the draft is not an exact
science.
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Re: 2017 NFL Draft
DIR By: WshflThinking
Date: January 2, 2017, 9:19 am
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I watched a lot of ND games. It seemed whenever Cutler, ooops I
mean Kizer made a mistake and came off the field Kelley would
get in his face and they'd go round and round. Kizer wouldn't be
any better than Barkley. I look at it this way, if Barkley
throws a bunch of int or Cutler, and we aren't satisfied with
that why would you replace them with the same thing in Kizer? I
just don't understand that logic. Sorry. And I sure wouldn't
waste #3 on him, maybe a late pick, like a 6th or 7th. And
that's a desperation move there.
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Re: 2017 NFL Draft
DIR By: joki13
Date: January 2, 2017, 9:43 am
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I watched enough of Kizer to know he's not all that.He played
behind one of the best OLs and played way to inconsistent for my
liking. Now If we're not going after Allen DL with our 3rd I
would trade down to acquire as many high picks as we can get our
hands on. Cleveland's 12th along with their two 2nds would be
outta sight! NO WAY to a QB in the 1st.
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Re: 2017 NFL Draft
DIR By: WshflThinking
Date: January 2, 2017, 10:44 am
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I agree with Joki. Get as many picks as you can if you aren't
taking Allen. We have a lot of needs in the secondary and DE. We
could fill a lot of holes that way. As for QB there are a lot of
options out there. I want to watch the Koolaid kids from Zootown
against Wisky today. I want to see what their QB has to offer.
He must have something to be in a major bowl game. Not even
Mahomes is in a major bowl game. And if the Bears were smart
they would invest some time in the Senior Bowl with their
coaching staff.
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Re: 2017 NFL Draft
DIR By: octagon
Date: January 2, 2017, 11:05 am
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--- Quote from: joki13 link ---
>
> I watched enough of Kizer to know he's not all that.He played
behind one of the best OLs and played way to inconsistent for my
liking. Now If we're not going after Allen DL with our 3rd I
would trade down to acquire as many high picks as we can get our
hands on. Cleveland's 12th along with their two 2nds would be
outta sight! NO WAY to a QB in the 1st.
>
--- End Quote ---
ND's o-line wasn't good this year. It's a typical Harry hiestand
line, less then the sum of its parts.
Kizer threw nine interceptions this year, pretty far from a
turnover machine that wishful is making him out to be. His
yards and completion % were both down and the bad o-line gave
some insight on how he does under pressure, which is not good at
all. He's got good size and athleticism, is tough and can make
all the throws. I just can't justify passing up a difference
maker on defense at 3 for kizer.
If Allen is there at 3 they have to take him. If not, trade
down and go CB or QB depending on who is available.
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Re: 2017 NFL Draft
DIR By: WshflThinking
Date: January 2, 2017, 11:32 am
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I found this a very interesting read, worth the time.
HTML http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/ct-10-thoughts-bears-vikings-20170102-story.html#nt=oft02a-1la1
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