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Re: 2017 NFL Draft
DIR By: davebear
Date: December 30, 2016, 7:00 pm
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Trubisky will not be ready to start as a rookie but he has such
unusual accuracy for a college QB that he's won't be on the
board long.
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Re: 2017 NFL Draft
DIR By: WshflThinking
Date: December 30, 2016, 9:07 pm
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Yep. Cleveland native. The Browns cant afford to pass on him.
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Re: 2017 NFL Draft
DIR By: Grizzlybear34
Date: December 31, 2016, 11:36 am
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What about picking up Tyrod Taylor from Buffalo as a bridge FA,
and then draft Kizer our of ND? Keep Connor Shaw as the number
2.
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Re: 2017 NFL Draft
DIR By: WshflThinking
Date: December 31, 2016, 12:59 pm
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I wouldn't give a 7th round pick for Kizer. Horribly bad. If you
weren't thrilled with Barkley and his 5 interceptions, you
wouldn't be happy with Kizer. Bad decisionmaking. Doesn't read
defenses well. Why do you think that Kizer and Kelley had such a
bad relationship?
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Re: 2017 NFL Draft
DIR By: WshflThinking
Date: December 31, 2016, 1:07 pm
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GB, if you didn't like Cutler and his bad decisionmaking and bad
interceptions, why would you want his reincarnation in Kizer to
replace him? Makes absolutely no earthly sense.
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Re: 2017 NFL Draft
DIR By: Jackiejokeman
Date: December 31, 2016, 2:46 pm
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Jordan Howard has proved we can RUN.
What would it take on the OFFENSIVE LINE to make him run better
?
Who are they and where can we get them in the draft ?
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Re: 2017 NFL Draft
DIR By: boogie
Date: December 31, 2016, 9:11 pm
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I didnt see too much of the Ohio St game, but the Clemson Qb
Watson seriously reminded me of Leonard Floyd. And not in a
good way. Just saying.
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Re: 2017 NFL Draft
DIR By: Grizzlybear34
Date: January 1, 2017, 6:10 am
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I haven't watched a lot of Kizer so point taken. However, the
draft analysts point to the lack of talent around him this year
with Fuller now on the Texans. Everything I have heard is that
he is a first round pick with excellent character, poise, and
leadership.
Here is a snippet from an earlier MMQB from this football
season.
Three weeks into the 2016 season Kizer, now a junior, has
trampolined into the top tier of draft-eligible quarterbacks.
He’s certainly at the top of the projected 2018 class, but also
2017 if he declares early. Scouts are seduced by Kizer’s size
(6' 4", 230 pounds) and skill set: He can scramble, but is
capable of functioning out of the pocket. He has a big arm, but
also displays impressive touch and timing on his throws. His
glittery statistics—in 16 career games: 3,599 passing yards,
63.0% completions, 8.69 yards per attempt, 30 TD passes and
another 14 as a runner, 12 interceptions—are bolstered by
something one evaluator could only describe as “the ‘it’
factor.” The 20-year-old has poise. Notre Dame fell out of the
playoff discussion with its second loss of the season on
Saturday, a dud against Michigan State, but Kizer alone kept the
Irish afloat. The final score was 36-28, thanks to a spirited
second-half comeback led by Kizer, who finished with 344 passing
yards and four total touchdowns.
So my point of Kizer is if you were to bring in a new flavor all
together with Taylor, who has fallen out of favor in Buffalo.
Taylor is still pretty young and if you could sign him to a four
year deal, with Shaw as backup, you would have an environment
for a 20 year old to grow slowly and be ready to go by year 3.
So yes, we are talking another rebuild, but have you seen enough
of the 3 proven Bears Qbs (and by proven meaning we know what we
have in Cutler, Hoyer, and Barkley) to know that none of them
will lead us deep in the playoffs? Taylor keeps us competitive
until Kizer is ready to go.
Could you trade back from 3 back into the draft and get Kizer
later in the first round? It will be interesting, but I think
we need to blow up the QB position but still get a veteran that
can play the position.
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Re: 2017 NFL Draft
DIR By: boogie
Date: January 1, 2017, 8:23 am
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So if we can keep the 3rd pick we will end up with Garrett,
Allen or Trubisky, if Trubisky is all that. That wouldnt be
such a bad first round.
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Re: 2017 NFL Draft
DIR By: octagon
Date: January 1, 2017, 11:53 am
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I watched every game of Kizers career, I'd be comfortable with
the Bears taking him if they traded down into the teens and were
able to take him there. If they stay at three I'd rather they
get a defensive difference maker.
I think Kizers has all the tools to be a good nfl qb but I'd
expect him to struggle pretty badly as a rookie on this team.
The main red flag for me was that he didn't improve much between
last season and this one. The Irish did lose a lot of receivers
and the o-line was awful all year.
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