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       Re: 2017 NFL Draft
   DIR By: WshflThinking
       Date: December 27, 2016, 8:38 am
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       Egads
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       How confusing. Bears just need to lose.
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       Re: 2017 NFL Draft
   DIR By: WshflThinking
       Date: December 27, 2016, 9:29 pm
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       For all you QB hungry posters, read and weep: [B] There will be
       some special defenders for the Bears to consider early in the
       2017 draft. The Bears can’t pass up a potential Day 1 in starter
       in favor of a quarterback with question marks.[/B]
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       Re: 2017 NFL Draft
   DIR By: Sportster
       Date: December 28, 2016, 6:59 am
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       Forget drafting a QB or whatever because the Bears have been
       horrible at it, give me something to look at on the field...
       cheerleaders,  :D
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       Re: 2017 NFL Draft
   DIR By: WshflThinking
       Date: December 28, 2016, 8:58 am
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       From Biggs's mailbag:
       Are any of the quarterbacks worth a top-4 pick? -- @geoman52
       Beauty is in the eye of the beholder or in this case in the eye
       of the teams drafting in the top four. The Bears have a good
       chance to own the No. 3 or No. 4 pick in the draft and will do
       exhaustive work on the draft-eligible quarterbacks. This is the
       one position that is consistently overdrafted because of supply
       and demand. It’s hard to say how high Clemson’s Deshaun Watson
       or Notre Dame’s DeShone Kizer will be selected at this point.
       Both are headed to the draft and most believe North Carolina’s
       Mitch Trubisky will declare for the draft. He’s another strong
       possibility. Let’s keep one thing in mind: Nearly every team
       near the top of the draft has a desperate need for a
       quarterback. Teams in the mix for the top six are the Browns,
       49ers, Bears, Jaguars, Jets and Titans (who own the Rams’ pick).
       If you’re not a believer in Blake Bortles at this point (and
       that’s a dwindling crowd), every team but the Titans will be in
       the market for a quarterback. That’s before a team outside of
       the top six considers a trade up for a quarterback. So the Bears
       are going to have plenty of competition when it comes to finding
       a quarterback to guide the franchise into the future.
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       Personally, not knowing who is going to be available at #3 such
       as at a defensive position of greater need, I might be enticed
       to drop down to around 10 and pick up enough to get back into
       the bottom of the first with my 2nd or 3rd and go for a QB then
       if I liked a specific one. Right now I am not enamored with any
       I have seen so far.
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       Re: 2017 NFL Draft
   DIR By: Jackiejokeman
       Date: December 28, 2016, 8:06 pm
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       4 BEARSE QB's in pre-season and during the season :
       What did you see from them and how would you rank them ?
       JCut
       Shaw
       Hoyer
       Barkley
       
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       Re: 2017 NFL Draft
   DIR By: Pekin
       Date: December 28, 2016, 8:36 pm
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       They were all fairly equal.  Each had good and bad moments and
       lots of losses.
       Hoyer had the least bad plays but also no upside.
       I feel Shaw has the most upside and chance of being something
       special but could also be a dud because we only saw him in
       limited time in preseason.
       Cutler has the most talent on display but costs the most.
       Barkley has accuracy and has displayed some skill but has also
       turned the ball over at an alarming rate and has his whole
       career.
       Cutler right now is the best of the bunch but he is very
       expensive for marginally better play.
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       Re: 2017 NFL Draft
   DIR By: WshflThinking
       Date: December 29, 2016, 8:01 am
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       And don't look for QB help from the draft, at least not early. I
       haven't seen anything special. I will continue to look this
       week, maybe Rudolph will interest me or Trubisky.
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       Re: 2017 NFL Draft
   DIR By: boogie
       Date: December 29, 2016, 8:21 am
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       In the preseason Shaw played circles around Cutler ANS Hoyer.  I
       would have loved to see him in some real games.  Barkley has
       some talents that Cutler does not, and costs a boat load less.
       I go into next year with Shaw/Barkley/Rookie.  Unless you want
       to shoot for Garapolo/Romo/Cousins.  I would probably pick
       Cousins out of that bunch.
       And dont get me started on the conspiracy theory that Barkley is
       turning the ball over to ensure we dont lose our draft pick.....
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       Re: 2017 NFL Draft
   DIR By: WshflThinking
       Date: December 29, 2016, 9:16 am
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       Lets just suppose for sadness sake that maybe Pace's choice gets
       taken right before the Bears pick in the draft and we have to go
       with Shaw, Barkley and someone else. Could that someone be David
       Fales? Nobody has given this kid a real tryout. I know that
       probably wouldn't not replace the Aaron Rodgers hopefuls, but
       when you look at our potential receiver roster we don't really
       have a good bunch that is going to concern a rival defensive
       coordinator with the exception of Jeffery. And don't say White
       either because IMHO he is as much toast as Jeffery. My point is
       that even if you had an Aaron Rodgers he wouldn't be better than
       what we have with the poor receivers we have. Expecting a huge
       turnaround with what we have is pie in the sky. We really need
       receivers before we get that stud QB. I think a Shaw with some
       quality receivers could get the job done.
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       Re: 2017 NFL Draft
   DIR By: dallasbear
       Date: December 29, 2016, 11:58 am
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       You got it backwards.  You get the QB first then you get the
       wide receivers.
       Assuming everybody comes back next  year we've got a decent
       group of WRs in Jeffery, Meridith, Thompson, and White.  If
       Marquess Wilson or Royal come back it's a bonus.  And Bellamy is
       a nice guy to have as a 6th WR.  I am wondering why Braverman
       hasn't been given more opportunities.  But we need a Cole
       Beasley slot guy.  We have so many other needs at other
       positions that I don't see the Bears spending anything more than
       a 6th or 7th round pick here.
       Now if the Bears do something stupid and let Jeffery walk then
       WR moves to a much higher priority in the draft and free agency.
       Sign him to a 3 year deal and go after the other positions of
       need.
       An even though he's not a WR a healthy Miller will also improve
       the receiving core.  We still need to find his successor.  Not
       yet sure of Daniel Brown.
       And Fales has played in the PS and not impressed not nearly as
       much as Shaw.  If he's not beating the Bears DBs in practice you
       think he's going to beat real NFL corners?
       And Aaron Rodgers just with Meridith and Jeffery would put up
       big numbers.  Are you kidding?
       Getting the right QB is the most difficult spot in the NFL to
       fill.
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