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Re: 2011 NFL Draft
By: boogie Date: April 18, 2011, 4:57 pm
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Wow, hindsight is 20/20.
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Re: 2011 NFL Draft
By: yapper Date: April 18, 2011, 5:00 pm
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Bleacher Report has us taking Liuget in the 1st (passing on
Danny Watkins who goes to the Steelers), and the C from TCU
(Kirkpatrick) in the 2nd. This is with all the top-rated
O-Linemen except Watkins off the board by 29.
Not sure how I'd feel about that. Liuget might be OK as a first
year contributor but considering that only a serious injury will
get Kreutz out of the lineup this season we could well wind up
having our 2nd round pick not playing a down this year. Which
really isn't acceptable. BTW Kirkpatrick is only the 9th best C
in this class based on the site I checked.
If we're gonna go DT in the 1st then our 2nd rounder really has
to be someone who can win one of the OG spots or the RT spot
outright and thereby be a first year contributor.
That same Bleacher Report draft has the Colts taking Carimi in
the 1st and the big Cannon kid from TCU in the 2nd... which
pretty much kicks our ass right across the room.
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Re: 2011 NFL Draft
By: WshflThinking Date: April 18, 2011, 6:50 pm
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Wright's mock draft 2.0
April, 17, 2011 Apr 1711:45AM CT
By Michael C. Wright
MICHAEL C. WRIGHT'S MOCK DRAFT 2.0
Team Player Pos. School Comment
1. Panthers Cam Newton QB Auburn Potential upside too much to
pass on.
2. Broncos Marcell Dareus DT Alabama With Newton gone, Broncos
take best available player.
3. Bills Von Miller OLB Texas A&M Time to admit Aaron Maybin was
a mistake in 2009.
4. Bengals A.J. Green WR Georgia Bengals continue to rebuild the
receiving corps.
5. Cardinals Patrick Peterson CB LSU Defensive need trumps
reaching for a QB.
6. Browns Da'Quan Bowers DE Clemson Knee concerns might just be
a smokescreen.
7. 49ers Prince Amukamara CB Nebraska 49ers add a Day 1 starter;
will address QB depth later.
8. Titans Blaine Gabbert QB Missouri Luck shines on Titans, who
have been vocal about QB needs.
9. Cowboys Robert Quinn DE/OLB North Carolina With top DBs off
board, Cowboys address rush.
10. Redskins Julio Jones WR Alabama An ideal fit for Shanahan's
West Coast offense.
11. Texans J.J. Watt DE Wisconsin New DC Wade Phillips needs
stability in front seven.
12. Vikings Nick Fairley DT Auburn The slide stops here. Vikings
grab a steal here.
13. Lions Tyron Smith OT USC Smith visited Lions earlier this
week, and says he fits system well.
14. Rams Corey Liuget DT Illinois Rams wanted a WR here, but the
top two are gone.
15. Dolphins Ryan Mallett QB Arkansas Team doesn't have a
second-round pick, so grab QB now.
16. Jaguars Ryan Kerrigan DE Purdue Conservative GM Gene Smith
goes for production over upside.
17. Patriots Cameron Jordan DE California Can come in and play
the five-technique.
18. Chargers Aldon Smith DE/OLB Missouri Raw but talented enough
to transition to 3-4.
19. Giants Mike Pouncey C/G Florida Probably too high here, but
age and injuries a concern on Giants OL.
20. Bucs Adrian Clayborn DE Iowa After just 26 sacks last year,
Bucs would be thrilled with Clayborn here.
21. Chiefs Anthony Castonzo OT Boston College Chiefs need WR,
but Costanzo is great value at another need.
22. Colts Nate Solder OT Colorado Still learning the position,
needs to get stronger, too.
23. Eagles Gabe Carimi OT Wisconsin Eagles consider CB Jimmy
Smith here, but go the safe route.
24. Saints Muhammad Wilkerson DE Temple Former team captain and
Temple defensive MVP.
25. Seahawks Jimmy Smith QB Colorado Seahawks roll the dice on a
top-10 talent.
26. Ravens Derek Sherrod OT Mississippi State Addition could
push Michael Oher back to right side.
27. Falcons Brandon Harris CB Miami Instead of reaching at DE,
Falcons add potential contributor.
28. Patriots Mark Ingram RB Alabama Danny Watkins make sense
here, but Ingram too talented to pass on.
29. Bears Marvin Austin DT North Carolina Major bust potential
with this pick, but the top OTs are gone.
30. Jets Justin Houston OLB Georgia Explosiveness will make Rex
Ryan forget about character concerns.
31. Steelers Danny Watkins G Baylor Possesses enough versatility
to play every position on the OL.
32. Packers Akeem Ayers OLB UCLA Considered overhyped, but
upside opposite Clay Matthews is intriguing.
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Re: 2011 NFL Draft
By: WshflThinking Date: April 18, 2011, 6:55 pm
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Dickerson's mock draft 2.0
April, 15, 2011 Apr 1511:07PM CT
By Jeff Dickerson
JEFF DICKERSON'S MOCK DRAFT 2.0
Team Player Pos. School Comment
1. Panthers Cam Newton QB Auburn Ron Rivera sounds convinced Cam
is the guy.
2. Broncos Marcell Dareus DT Alabama No chance Dareus makes it
past Denver.
3. Bills Blaine Gabbert QB Missouri Buffalo in desperate need of
QB.
4. Bengals A.J. Green WR Georgia Green will be key in Bengals
offensive makeover.
5. Cardinals Von Miller DE/OLB Texas A&M Miller wowed scouts at
Senior Bowl and Combine.
6. Browns Robert Quinn DE North Carolina Too much talent to pass
up despite missing 2010.
7. 49ers Patrick Peterson CB LSU Maybe best overall talent in
entire draft.
8. Titans Nick Fairley DT Auburn Worth risk because of dominant
final year at Auburn.
9. Cowboys Prince Amukamara CB Nebraska Jerry Jones must address
awful Dallas secondary.
10. Redskins Julio Jones WR Alabama Goes for established
playmaker instead of reaching at QB.
11. Texans Cameron Jordan DE California Houston looking to beef
up pass rush.
12. Vikings Tyron Smith OT USC Would allow Minnesota to move
Bryant McKinnie to RT.
13. Lions Mike Pouncey G/C Florida Suprise. Pouncey does end up
in NFC North, just not with Bears.
14. Rams Corey Liuget DT Illinois Perfect fit for
defensive-minded coach Steve Spagnuolo.
15. Dolphins Mark Ingram RB Alabama Best running back in the
draft class.
16. Jaguars Ryan Kerrigan DE Purdue Jags need insurance for
Aaron Kampman.
17. Patriots J.J. Watt DE Wisconsin Can't pass up a lineman
tailor made for a 3-4 scheme.
18. Chargers Muhammad Wilkerson DE/DT Temple Good interior
defensive linemen are hard to find.
19. Giants Anthony Castonzo OT Boston College New York's left
tackle of the future.
20. Bucs Aldon Smith DE Missouri Smith should be able to
contribute right away.
21. Chiefs Phil Taylor DT Baylor Every great 3-4 defense needs
that big nose tackle.
22. Colts Nate Solder OT Colorado Indianapolis fills a huge need
at tackle.
23. Eagles Gabe Carimi OT Wisconsin Even with mobile Vick,
Eagles surrendered ton of sacks.
24. Saints Da'Quan Bowers DE Clemson Still not sure about his
health, but Saints will take chance.
25. Seahawks Jake Locker QB Washington Locker stays put in
Pacific Northwest.
26. Ravens Jimmy Smith CB Colorado Veteran roster equipped to
deal with Smith's baggage.
27. Falcons Adrian Clayborn DE/DT Iowa Character concerns drop
Clayborn to a late first-rounder.
28. Patriots Danny Watkins OG Baylor Pats opt for OL, but still
leave Bears with a tackle.
29. Bears Derek Sherrod OT Mississippi St. Jerry Angelo happy a
quality tackle still left on the board.
30. Jets Akeem Ayers OLB USC Versatile player could contribute
for Rex Ryan.
31. Steelers Aaron Williams CB Texas Can play corner and free
safety.
32. Packers Marvin Austin DT North Carolina Green Bay expects
some turnover on defensive line.
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Re: 2011 NFL Draft
By: Jackiejokeman Date: April 18, 2011, 10:22 pm
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How to get a quality OT in the first? There aint that many and
they are going to go fast.
If youre Tice and Martz you gotta be in angelos ear...
which has never happened before under the angelo reign.
They just might get thru to his gourd to keep him from punching
the ticket on a DT.
Which is where you KNOW he wants to go.
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Re: 2011 NFL Draft
By: WshflThinking Date: April 19, 2011, 12:30 am
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Which is where you KNOW he wants to go.
We know that. And why woudnt he? He dumped Tommy Harris. That
DLine is a friggin mess. We get no pressure up the middle which
puts more pressure on the secondary to cover and we know how
weak the secondary is. But it could be adequate if we could get
some pressure up the middle.
I surely wouldnt blame Angelo for drafting a DT at #29, provided
its a player capable of starting and being an impact
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Re: 2011 NFL Draft
By: boogie Date: April 19, 2011, 8:18 am
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Nice story about Costanzo. now I really wish we could get him:
HTML http://www.freep.com/article/20110419/SPORTS01/104190363/1049/Potential-Lions-pick-Castonzo-had-long-journey-draft
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Re: 2011 NFL Draft
By: yapper Date: April 19, 2011, 8:27 am
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Interesting how two months ago you could hardly find any mock
draft with an OT in the Top 15... now we're a week away and
you've got 2 or 3 of them as consensus Top 20 picks.
FWIW here's a scouting report on Costanzo:
A tall, natural athlete for the position who displays good
length and above-average athleticism when asked to reach the
edge. Does a nice job sitting into his stance off the snap and
is very comfortable playing from a three-point stance. However,
isn't as technically sound as advertised. Struggles to
consistently keep his base under him and will bend at the waist
and overextend into blocks — especially from a two-point stance
— and his footwork on his initial kick-slide isn't the cleanest.
Has a tendency to get a bit overextended, will open up his hips
prematurely and get caught with his feet parallel to one another
vs. speed to the corner. Now, is a natural athlete with fluid
hips and displays the ability to cleanly/quickly redirect and
cut off blocks inside and counter moves. However, isn't real
heavy handed and doesn't have the kind of power to simply lock
out and keep defenders from pumping their legs through contact.
Displays good range and body control on the move in the run
game. Is natural when asked to get around defenders and seal on
perimeter runs, and he looks comfortable chipping at the line
and reaching the second level as well. However, again, doesn't
generate much power from his lower half on contact. Has a
tendency to roll his hips into contact and doesn't get much
movement off the snap. More of a finesse guy who understands
angles, leverage and does a nice job of getting his hands inside
on the target, but lacks the natural strength to simply
eliminate defenders from the play.
Impression: The size, length and natural athleticism is there,
but he needs more time to mature physically. I don't think he's
a guy who you can pencil in as a starter on the left side from
day one, but with some time he has the skill set to eventually
develop into a serviceable starting left tackle in the NFL.
However, as of now, isn't an elite offensive tackle prospect by
any stretch in my book.
Started off his college career at right tackle but then moved
over to the left side. Was only about 260 pounds as a freshman.
Has gotten bigger and stronger every year and should max out at
about 315 - 320. Like most Boston College linemen, he has been
well coached. Is best as a pass blocker where he sets quickly,
has good lateral agility and the body control to recover. Has
good hand use and plays with bend. Where he needs improvement is
in lower body strength and bulk. While he is a steady run
blocker, he is not consistent at getting movement and I have
seen his legs give out at times when run blocking. You can also
see this when he is up against a bull rush. While he can bend,
his anchor ability is average. He as the athleticism to play
left tackle and played some guard at the Senior Bowl, but until
he improves his lower strength that is not the position for him.
Overall, he will probably get drafted higher than I would take
him. I like his toughness and techniques, but the lack of lower
strength and power scares me. He is not a real "wide body" and
there have been too many times in the past where players like
this haven't changed when they got to the NFL. If that's the
case, he will only be an average pro.
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Re: 2011 NFL Draft
By: packrat Date: April 19, 2011, 11:10 am
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I believe that most of the QBs are over-rated, also.
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Re: 2011 NFL Draft
By: WshflThinking Date: April 19, 2011, 1:17 pm
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....Just like our current starting QB
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