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#Post#: 4120--------------------------------------------------
Re: 2011 NFL Draft
DIR By: yapper
Date: April 27, 2011, 3:29 pm
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> You act like they can't pick up some offensive line help via
free agency. I don't see doom and gloom if they don't get an
offensive lineman with their first round pick like you do. But
I do believe they'll draft one anyway to please you. :)
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I'm not doubting we can pick up a starting caliber RT or OG in
the bottom of the 2nd.
But if that's how it goes down then the DT we take in the 1st
had damn well better be a player... from Day One, and for a
long time. Because it's likely we will have passed on some solid
OL talent to fix a problem at DT that should have been addressed
two years ago already.
Also, people seem to think just one new player on our OL is
going to fix it and that's not true. We need at least two new
bodies (1 G and 1 T), possibly three if Kreutz is not re-signed
for whatever reason. So even if we draft a guy and pick up
another one in FA, we've just done the bare minimum unless that
3rd guy winds up being Herman Johnson or someone else already on
the roster.
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Re: 2011 NFL Draft
DIR By: WshflThinking
Date: April 27, 2011, 3:57 pm
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> A big part of the CB problem was lack of a pass rush
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Absolutely correct. You fix that line and the CB doesnt have to
cover all day long. And even with Peppers how many sacks or
hurries did that DL produce? IMHO not enough. But you know what
goes around comes around and Angelo has had 3 shots at drafting
a DT and another one he traded for that was DOA. So I dont
imagine his track record for drafting DTs is any better than his
track record for OTs. Do I have faith in whoever Angelo drafts
this time? Absolutely not. He's a bungler waiting for his next
gig.
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Re: 2011 NFL Draft
DIR By: yapper
Date: April 27, 2011, 3:59 pm
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--- Quote from: WshflThinking link ---
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> Absolutely correct. You fix that line and the CB doesnt have
to cover all day long. And even with Peppers how many sacks or
hurries did that DL produce? IMHO not enough. But you know what
goes around comes around and Angelo has had 3 shots at drafting
a DT and another one he traded for that was DOA. So I dont
imagine his track record for drafting DTs is any better than his
track record for OTs. Do I have faith in whoever Angelo drafts
this time? Absolutely not. He's a bungler waiting for his next
gig.
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Yup. Hard to shake the feeling that no matter who we take at 29,
the next three guys taken (by the Steelers, Packers and Pats)
are all gonna wind up being better players.
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Re: 2011 NFL Draft
DIR By: WshflThinking
Date: April 27, 2011, 4:11 pm
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--- Quote from: yapper link ---
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> Yup. Hard to shake the feeling that no matter who we take at
29, the next three guys taken (by the Steelers, Packers and
Pats) are all gonna wind up being better players.
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Absolutely agree. Its like selecting a wife. "Beauty is in the
eyes of the Beholder" So if Angelo sees some bum and thinks he's
a star he will draft him. In the meantime we fans suffer.
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Re: 2011 NFL Draft
DIR By: yapper
Date: April 27, 2011, 4:48 pm
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Gotta feel for this kid:
HTML http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/04/27/mike-mayock-still-believes-in-mark-ingram/
Great character guy, outstanding college career... playing a
position that apparently nobody wants anymore.
Even 3 years ago this guy would have been a lockdown Top 10
pick. This year, who knows?
My money says he goes to the Pats with the first pick of the 2nd
round and is their franchise RB for the next 8 years.
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Re: 2011 NFL Draft
DIR By: packrat
Date: April 27, 2011, 6:14 pm
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By Vic Ketchman, packers.com editor
Posted 8 hours ago
aaRead Discuss Comments:3 The big day is now just one day away.
Are you ready for some football?
Yes, oh, yes, I am ready for some football. The only football
event I’ve covered since I got here was the scouting combine in
Indianapolis, but that was nearly two months ago and the annual
burst of free agency that gets us through March and the final
days of winter were replaced this year by labor unrest.
I hate labor unrest. I want some mini-camp. I want some OTAs.
First, of course, it’s the draft. I thought it would never get
here.
Yeah, I like this kind of party, baby. I like “looks like
Tarzan, plays like Jane,” “gotta look good in the shower,” and
all of those wonderful draftisms the scouts use that make the
draft the most flavorful offseason event in all of sports.
We laughed nearly 30 years ago when ESPN announced it would
televise the draft live and nonstop. What will they do between
picks, we laughed? Hey, now they’re even doing it on radio.
So, in keeping with the craze, here’s another draft column. The
subject of today’s column is: Five things you shouldn’t do in
the draft.
1. Draft little guys early and big guys late—Nothing will
disease a team’s roster quicker and more completely than wide
receiver fever. You gotta get the big guys early because, as the
late, great Giants GM George Young so elegantly described of his
“Planet Theory,” there are only so many men on the planet that
big and when you have a chance to get one, you gotta take him.
Want proof? Look at the drafts of the expansion Browns and
Texans. Where are the big guys? No big guys mean lots of sacks
on offense and not many sacks on defense and that’s a formula
for losing. Yeah, there are those wide receivers that are so
special that they are worth a high pick, but there aren’t many
of them and if you decide to take a swing at one of them, you
must accept the fact that the bust percentage for first-round
wide receivers is off the charts. Meanwhile, the hit percentage
for offensive linemen gives GMs a warm, fuzzy feeling the day
after the draft.
2. Think you’re one player away—Why do so many teams think
they’re a player away from the Super Bowl? Why do so many teams
that earned a spot in the top 10 by being a roster away from the
Super Bowl think one player can change all of that? OK, there
are those teams at the bottom of the order that might, in fact,
need just one more piece to put them over the top and a trade up
might produce that player, but the cost can be excruciating and
teams that think they’re one player away are often teams that
are at the end of their rope and are desperate to take one more
swing before age collapses their run. Don’t do it. Don’t make
the mistake of mortgaging your future by trading away picks for
one pick. Don’t think in terms of this draft, think in terms of
every draft. The draft is a collection process. When executed
properly, it provides an even accumulation of talent that gives
your roster chronological order so that it can sustain the
team’s performance over all years, and not cause up and down
cycles that require rebuilding.
3. Draft to sell tickets—It is the act of the truly woebegone.
They have no fans and they soon will have no players if they
draft salesmen instead of football players. Name one player that
sold tickets because he lost games. Hey, Michael Vick sold
tickets in Atlanta, but Vick’s talent made him worthy of the
selection. You pick talent first and if you’re lucky the guy you
pick will be a draw, but never pick a guy you believe will sell
tickets but you’re not sure about his talent.
4. Draft for the same need—Some guys will become so obsessed
with addressing a need that they end up drafting the same guy
over and over. I’ve seen it. The need for a shut-down corner is
followed by the selection of three cornerbacks in six rounds.
Those teams often discover that they manufactured prospects,
which caused those teams to seek safety in numbers. Hey, one of
these guys has to be able to play, right? Wrong. The need for an
impact pass-rusher is the common example. First round, second
round, third round; they keep picking pass-rushers because they
became so wired up about drafting a pass-rusher that
pass-rushers are the only guys they studied and their board is
overloaded with them.
5. Trust somebody else’s rankings—If you do that, then why even
do your own rankings? Still, it happens. After months and months
of work at assembling a board and targeting prospects, the week
of lies leading up to the draft, all of which are intended to
soften those that lack confidence in their own work, create
doubt and re-working of those boards. All of a sudden, players
start to rise and fall based on comments shrewdly made by
personnel men on other teams that have their eye on a particular
guy and know they need to make him fall to have any chance to
draft him. Rank ’em and pick ’em. Don’t worry about what others
say, especially what Mel Kiper and the legion of draftniks will
offer in the way of post-draft grades and critiques.
Here’s the big do: Be true to your board.
If you scouted the prospects properly, your board is your
friend. Trust him.
#Post#: 4211--------------------------------------------------
Re: 2011 NFL Draft
DIR By: WshflThinking
Date: April 28, 2011, 6:55 am
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Picking so low in draft leaves Bears with uncertainty
Dan Pompei
On the NFL
7:48 p.m. CDT, April 27, 2011
It takes foresight to draft well, certainly. But it also takes
luck. And in one scenario being played out in NFL draft rooms
across the country, the Bears could be in for some of it.
Barring something completely unexpected, these are six strongest
possibilities for the Bears when the 29th pick in the first
round comes up around 10:15 p.m. Thursday.
1. One of the top four offensive tackles takes a fortuitous
plunge.
Some projections have Wisconsin offensive tackle Gabe Carimi
being chosen as high as the late teens. But if a third
quarterback and another offensive lineman like Baylor guard
Danny Watkins sneaks in ahead of the 29th pick, Carimi could
slip.
The other tackle in the top four who could slide is Colorado
offensive tackle Nate Solder. Some teams rate Solder as the
second best tackle; others believe Carimi will go ahead him.
Either likely would thrill the Bears.
The difference between them? Carimi is more of a right tackle
and might not have the feet to play on the left side. Solder is
more of a left tackle and pass protector who needs to develop
strength for run blocking.
2. The top four tackles are gone, so the Bears settle on
Mississippi State's Derek Sherrod.
The tackle depth is so good this year that the Bears could end
up with the fifth best and still walk away whistling. At one
point, it appeared all five would be gone at 29. Now there
appears to be a good chance at least one will be there.
Sherrod probably could step in and start at left or right
tackle.
3. They decide to go with a guard instead of a tackle.
Guard arguably is a position of greater need for the Bears, and
if the front office has Watkins rated ahead of Sherrod, or if
the top five tackles are gone, the Bears could choose Watkins.
At Baylor, Watkins played left tackle, but his best position in
the NFL will be guard.
4. Trade down.
Put it this way, when the Bears pick approaches, general manager
Jerry Angelo is going to make sure the phone line isn't tied up.
The Bears will be all ears.
Their best hope is a run on the second tier of quarterbacks. If
four quarterbacks are chosen before the Bears' pick arrives, one
of the teams picking high in the second round could jump up to
get a chance at the last of the second tier, which includes Andy
Dalton, Jake Locker and Christian Ponder.
If the Bears trade down, they might have to settle for 2011
second round pick and a 2012 draft pick as compensation.
5. Go for help on the defensive line.
It is unlikely any Rod Marinelli-style defensive tackle will be
on the board at 29 who is worthy of a first-round pick. From a
talent standpoint, Marvin Austin may be, but most teams have
downgraded him because of how he has carried himself. Austin
might make more sense for the Bears in a trade-down scenario.
Six defensive ends likely will be off the board before the Bears
select. The best one remaining may be Ohio State's Cameron
Heyward, who is a better fit in a 3-4 than a 4-3.
Three other pass rushers could be considered in that range. Two
of them, Georgia's Justin Houston and Iowa's Christian Ballard,
reportedly flunked drug tests at the combine. That will diminish
their chances of going so high.
The most logical pass rusher for the Bears could be Arizona's
Brooks Reed. The 29th spot would seem a little high to take him,
but he could be a fallback pick.
Other pass rushing options are Martez Wilson of Illinois and
Akeem Ayers of UCLA. Both could be a first- and second-down
linebackers, and third-down rushers.
6. Think outside the box.
The Bears could ignore the big guys and make a selection hardly
anyone would expect — perhaps a cornerback (Texas' Aaron
Williams fits their system perfectly) or a wide receiver
(Pittsburgh's Jonathan Baldwin has size and big-play ability).
But those picks wouldn't make sense if Carimi or Solder is
hanging around at 29.
dpompei@tribune.com
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Re: 2011 NFL Draft
DIR By: WshflThinking
Date: April 28, 2011, 7:06 am
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Dan Pompei's NFL mock draft
Dan Pompei
On the NFL
7:48 p.m. CDT, April 27, 2011
The NFL is a quarterback driven league, whether it's draft night
or Super Sunday.
A quarterback is expected to be the first player selected when
the draft kicks off at 7 p.m. Thursday. As many as five
quarterbacks could be taken in the first round if teams trade up
from the second round, even though they may have to reach to
take them.
Our mock draft does not account for Andy Dalton or Christian
Ponder, but it wouldn't be surprising to see either passer
taken. Even Ryan Mallett is a first-round dark horse.
The other first-round trend to watch is what former Giants
general manager George Young used to call "the dance of the
elephants." There will be many offensive and defensive linemen
taken Thursday, perhaps as many as 20, or 62 percent of all
first rounders.
There are a couple of reasons for this. First, it's a strong
draft for them. And second, those precious quarterbacks who
drive the league need to be protected — and contained. The best
way to do that is with those elephants.
1. Panthers — Cam Newton, Auburn QB, 6-5, 248: Late rumors say
they take Marcell Dareus. Smells like a smokescreen.
2. Broncos — *Marcell Dareus, Alabama DT, 6-3, 319: Tough call
between Von Miller and Dareus.
3. Bills — Von Miller, Texas A&M OLB, 6-3, 246: If the Panthers
pass on Newton, the Bills won't.
4. Bengals — *Blaine Gabbert, Missouri QB, 6-4, 234: A.J. Green
is the popular pick, but Gabbert makes sense.
5. Cardinals — *Patrick Peterson, Louisiana State CB, 6-0, 219:
Don't buy the hype about A.J. Green.
6. Browns — *Julio Jones, Alabama WR, 6-3, 220: It's a coin flip
between Jones and Green.
7. 49ers — *Robert Quinn, North Carolina DE, 6-4, 265: They
might prefer Peterson, and Prince Amukamara is possible.
8. Titans — *Nick Fairley, Auburn DT, 6-4, 291: They really need
a QB but will wait to get one.
9. Cowboys — *J.J. Watt, Wisconsin DE, 6-5, 290: Tyron Smith
could go here, but the Cowboys love Watt.
10. Redskins — *A.J. Green, Georgia WR, 6-4, 211: Mike Shanahan
is doing backflips if he's available.
11. Texans — *Aldon Smith, Missouri DE, 6-4, 263: He could be an
OLB in Wade Phillips' new 3-4.
12. Vikings — *Tyron Smith, Southern Cal OT, 6-5, 307: A pass
rusher is a possibility here.
13. Lions — Prince Amukamara, Nebraska CB, 6-0, 206: Another
possibility is Da'Quan Bowers.
14. Rams — *Corey Liuget, Illinois DT, 6-2, 298: The Rams likely
will get DL help.
15. Dolphins — Mike Pouncey, Miami OL, 6-5, 303: They would like
to move out; a QB is possible.
16. Jaguars — Ryan Kerrigan, Purdue DE, 6-4, 267: Cameron Jordan
is in the mix. Would they take a QB?
17. Patriots — *Mark Ingram, Alabama RB, 5-9, 215: Look for a
trade here.
18. Chargers — Cameron Jordan, California DE, 6-4, 287: A front
seven defender seems likely.
19. Giants — Anthony Castonzo, Boston College OT, 6-7, 311: Look
for the Giants to go big one way or another.
20. Bucs — *Da'Quan Bowers, Clemson DE, 6-3, 280: If Bowers is
gone, Adrian Clayborn is the pick.
21. Chiefs — Phil Taylor, Baylor DT, 6-3, 334: Taylor will go in
this range.
22. Colts — Nate Solder, Colorado OT, 6-8, 319: Need matches
strength of draft for Indy.
23. Eagles — Jimmy Smith, Colorado CB, 6-2, 211: They also could
go for an offensive lineman.
24. Saints — Adrian Clayborn, Iowa DE, 6-3, 281: They are
looking for defensive help up front.
25. Seahawks — Jake Locker, Washington QB, 6-3, 231: There is a
chance he is long gone.
26. Ravens — Muhammad Wilkerson, Temple DT, 6-4, 315: Danny
Watkins or a trade down is possible here.
27. Falcons — Danny Watkins, Baylor G, 6-3, 310: They want a DE,
but there might not be one.
28. Patriots — *Martez Wilson, Illinois LB, 6-4, 250: This is
another hot spot for a trade.
29. Bears — Gabe Carimi, Wisconsin OT, 6-7, 314: This huge
blocker will be a good fit on Mike Tice's line. The Bears will
be fortunate if he falls to them.
30. Jets — Cameron Heyward, Ohio State DE, 6-5, 294: Look for
the Jets to try to add to their defensive front.
31. Steelers — Derek Sherrod, OT, Mississippi State, 6-5, 321:
They also could go for CB Aaron Williams.
32. Packers — *Akeem Ayers, UCLA OLB, 6-3, 254: The Packers are
unpredictable, but they need a pass rusher.
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Re: 2011 NFL Draft
DIR By: WshflThinking
Date: April 28, 2011, 7:11 am
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Tribune's 1st-round draft picks for Bears at No. 29
7:48 p.m. CDT, April 27, 2011
Brad Biggs
Derek Sherrod, OT, Mississippi State: History — and only six
picks in the draft — dictates Jerry Angelo tries to trade down,
but if he can't Sherrod could be a starter as a rookie.
Matt Bowen
Aaron Williams, CB, Texas: With upgrades needed at cornerback,
the Bears will do well to select a physical prospect with size,
length and press-coverage ability at the NFL level.
David Haugh
Marvin Austin, DT, North Carolina: Sure, other needs exist. But
the only thing Jerry Angelo enjoys doing more on draft day than
trading down is selecting defensive linemen. Austin would help
keep depth at the position, a team strength, strong. He also
represents the kind of reclamation project that often appeals to
Lovie Smith and Rod Marinelli, and would enter the NFL with
something to prove.
Vaughn McClure
Brooks Reed, DE, Arizona: Has been compared to Clay Matthews and
projects as a 3-4 outside linebacker, but the Bears like him.
Plus Reed excelled in a 4-3 system.
Fred Mitchell
Derek Sherrod, OT, Mississippi State: Although GM Jerry Angelo
has a first-round history of picking defensive linemen, the
Bears' most glaring need for reinforcement is the offensive
line. Sherrod is regarded as an experienced, athletic lineman
adept at run- and pass-blocking on the left side.
Dan Pompei
Gabe Carimi, Wisconsin OT: This huge blocker will be a good fit
on Mike Tice's line. The Bears will be fortunate if he falls to
them.
#Post#: 4214--------------------------------------------------
Re: 2011 NFL Draft
DIR By: WshflThinking
Date: April 28, 2011, 7:24 am
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With the 29th pick in the NFL draft, who will the Bears take?
BY NEIL HAYES nhayes@suntimes.com Apr 28, 2011 02:12AM
After reclamation project with Bucs, Angelo and Ruskell reunited
with Bears Putting together a mock draft is always an exercise
in futility, but never more so than this year. Anybody who tells
you he has a feel for what will transpire tonight is deluded.
The NFL’s unprecedented offseason of uncertainty continues
tonight, when the Carolina Panthers are on the clock with the
No. 1 overall pick in the NFL draft. First-year coach Ron Rivera
might take Auburn quarterback Cam Newton. The former Bears
linebacker and defensive coordinator also might play it safe and
select Alabama defensive tackle Marcell Dareus.
Because there is little talent disparity at the top of the
draft, the rest of the top 10 might be just as unpredictable.
‘‘Every draft is exciting, but this one is even more so because
of the setting we’re in,’’ said former NFL executive Michael
Lombardi, who is now an analyst for the NFL Network. ‘‘This
draft is wide-open and completely unpredictable.’’
If Rivera is still unsure about which direction he will go in,
imagine how Bears general manager Jerry Angelo must feel about
holding the 29th overall choice.
Though teams aren’t allowed to trade players because of the
labor impasse, some predict more draft-pick trades than ever,
especially late in the first round, where several teams might
want to trade up to choose from a second tier of quarterbacks.
For that and other reasons, don’t be surprised if Angelo drops
into the second round for additional picks.
Because needs have not been filled via free agency, teams also
might reach for players more than they would during a normal
draft, adding another element of unpredictability.
Given all that, here’s one man’s mock draft, for what it’s
worth.
1. Carolina Panthers — Cam Newton, QB, Auburn: With Julius
Peppers gone, Rivera must excite the fan base, resulting in this
calculated risk.
2. Denver Broncos — Marcell Dareus, DT, Alabama: John Fox lands
a defensive anchor for a decade.
3. Buffalo Bills — Von Miller, LB, Texas A&M: Too early to take
a left tackle when there’s no sure thing in the draft.
4. Cincinnati Bengals — A.J. Green, WR, Georgia: Time to rebuild
passing game with Carson Palmer, Chad Ochocinco wanting to bolt.
5. Arizona Cardinals — Patrick Peterson, CB, LSU: Cards have
other needs but can’t resist this talent.
6. Cleveland Browns — Julio Jones, WR, Alabama: Browns draft a
playmaker for Colt McCoy.
7. San Francisco 49ers — Prince Amukamara, CB, Nebraska: Jim
Harbaugh needs a quarterback, but not this high.
8. Tennessee Titans — Nick Fairley, DT, Auburn: Fairley’s
college defensive line coach knows him best and is now with
Titans.
9. Dallas Cowboys — Tyron Smith, OT, USC: Jerry Jones hasn’t
used first-round pick on offensive lineman in his 22 years as
owner. It’s time.
10. Washington Redskins — Blaine Gabbert, QB, Missouri: Mike
Shanahan doesn’t need another quarterback with accuracy issues,
so he takes Gabbert over Jake Locker.
11. Houston Texans — Aldon Smith, DE, Missouri: Ex-Cowboys coach
and new defensive coordinator Wade Phillips looking for next
DeMarcus Ware.
12. Minnesota Vikings — Jake Locker, QB, Washington: Vikings so
desperate for quarterback, they reach for Locker.
13. Detroit Lions — Anthony Castonzo, OT, Boston College:
Whether he plays right or left tackle, Lake Zurich native will
play for a long time.
14. St. Louis Rams — Robert Quinn, DE, North Carolina: With top
two receivers gone, Rams opt for help on defensive line.
15. Miami Dolphins — Gabe Carimi, OT, Wisconsin: Dolphins take
mauler who can play guard or tackle.
16. Jacksonville Jaguars — Ryan Kerrigan, DE, Purdue: Jags
finished last season ranked 31st in sacks.
17. New England Patriots — J.J. Watt, DE, Wisconsin: Coach Bill
Belichick looking for depth after defensive line was ravaged by
injuries last season.
18. San Diego Chargers — Cameron Jordan, DE, California: End not
big need, but he’s too good to pass up.
19. New York Giants — Corey Liuget, DT, Illinois: Giants wanted
an offensive tackle but settle for Liuget. Bears likely would
have done same here.
20. Tampa Bay Buccaneers — Da’Quan Bowers, DE, Clemson: Bucs
need pass rusher and get steal, provided he can stay healthy.
21. Kansas City Chiefs — Mike Pouncey, C/G, Florida: Chiefs
could go in several directions, but they need youth up front.
22. Indianapolis Colts — Nate Solder, OT, Colorado: Bill Polian
invests in player who might become anchor at left tackle.
23. Philadelphia Eagles — Jimmy Smith, CB, Colorado: Sure, he
might have character issues. But if Andy Reid can resurrect
Michael Vick .  .  .
24. New Orleans Saints — Adrian Clayborn, DE, Iowa: The Saints
need help on the defensive line.
25. Seattle Seahawks — Ryan Mallett, QB, Arkansas: A reach. With
Matt Hasselbeck a free agent, coach Pete Carroll has little
choice.
26. Baltimore Ravens — Muhammad Wilkerson, DE, Temple: He has
the traits to be standout defensive end in Ravens’ scheme.
27. Atlanta Falcons — Kyle Rudolph, TE, Notre Dame: Tony
Gonzalez is nearing the end, and Matt Ryan needs a big target.
28. New England Patriots — Danny Watkins, G, Baylor: Pats take
somebody who can step right in for retired Stephen Neal.
29. Bears — Marvin Austin, DT, North Carolina: Ideal replacement
for Tommie Harris, and Bears are comfortable with character
concerns.
30. New York Jets — Phil Taylor, DT, Baylor: Coach Rex Ryan
finds perfect anchor for his 3-4 scheme.
31. Pittsburgh Steelers — Brandon Harris, CB, Miami: Aaron
Rodgers exposed secondary in Super Bowl.
32. Green Bay Packers — Brooks Reed, DE, Arizona: Bears might
regret not taking offensive tackle after Packers find rushing
partner for Clay Matthews.
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