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       #Post#: 3792--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2011 NFL Draft
   DIR By: Jackiejokeman
       Date: April 26, 2011, 4:05 pm
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       --- Quote from: yapper link ---
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       > Costanzo would have to start Day One at LT and be a noticeable
       upgrade to be worth that hefty price. And even then we'd have no
       ammunition left to go after an upgrade at one of the OG
       positions and/or a replacement for Kreutz.
       >
       > The Jenkins pick would square with Angelo's M.O...  DL from a
       warm weather school who needs quite a bit of development. I've
       also seen us taking that DT from South Florida who is undersized
       but apparently has looked terrific in various workouts since the
       end of his college season.
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       Yep Yap,
       Just a few more days to go and all shall be made clear...except
       for the judge's ruling. Nyuk!
       This is gonna get really crazy the next two days.
       #Post#: 3798--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2011 NFL Draft
   DIR By: yapper
       Date: April 26, 2011, 4:19 pm
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       Honestly I thought we'd see some trades being made by now.
       The lockout has been lifted...  not sure what the holdup is.
       #Post#: 3799--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2011 NFL Draft
   DIR By: Jackiejokeman
       Date: April 26, 2011, 4:21 pm
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       --- Quote from: yapper link ---
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       > Honestly I thought we'd see some trades being made by now.
       >
       > The lockout has been lifted...  not sure what the holdup is.
       >
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       I'm wondering how and under what rules do you sign anyone with
       no contract rules in place.
       #Post#: 3819--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2011 NFL Draft
   DIR By: WshflThinking
       Date: April 26, 2011, 6:31 pm
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       Who is the big DT from North Carolina?
       #Post#: 3826--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2011 NFL Draft
   DIR By: Pekin
       Date: April 26, 2011, 6:55 pm
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       There will be no activity because the league is continuing the
       lockout (they will allow players into the building but not allow
       them to work out) until the judge rules on their request to stay
       the ruling.  They are also appealing.  We should here something
       in the next few days.
       #Post#: 4008--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2011 NFL Draft
   DIR By: yapper
       Date: April 27, 2011, 8:08 am
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       So it doesn't look like any trades are going to happen before
       the draft. Which means a lot of teams may be forced to address
       needs through the draft that they otherwise would have addressed
       in trades.  In other words, more reaching and in some cases, a
       shift away from value and toward need.
       I've seen more than a few people predicting there would be a lot
       more "WTF" picks in this year's draft than in years past and I'm
       inclined to believe that.
       #Post#: 4009--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2011 NFL Draft
   DIR By: yapper
       Date: April 27, 2011, 8:15 am
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       --- Quote from: WshflThinking link ---
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       > Who is the big DT from North Carolina?
       >
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       You're thinking of this guy:
  HTML http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/ct-spt-0427-bears-chicago--20110426,0,6109615.story
       Intriguing prospect. Check out the article... dude even LOOKS
       like Tommie Harris.  He has Top-15 talent but after the way he
       boned up his college career no team is going to take a chance on
       him that high. His true value when you consider risk/reward is
       an upper 2nd-round pick...  which means we'd either have to
       reach for him at 31 or trade down a few spots and hope he lasts.
       No way he drops to the bottom of the 2nd.
       The other thing of course is that he's from the same college as
       Julius Peppers so through Peppers' old UNC connections the Bears
       may have some inside info as well.
       #Post#: 4026--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2011 NFL Draft
   DIR By: boogie
       Date: April 27, 2011, 10:02 am
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       Seriously????  Chris Williams at Center?  Heaven help us.  Just
       admit the mistake and move on:
       As for center, the Bears have confidence Edwin Williams can do
       the job if Kreutz, an unrestricted free agent, doesn’t return,
       which remains a possibility. There even have been discussions
       about moving Chris Williams to center, which would be a stunning
       admission for a team that drafted Williams 14th overall in 2008
       to be the left tackle of the future.
       On the other hand, the 6-6, 315-pound Williams would provide the
       added bulk Tice is looking for. Because his strength is his
       intelligence, he could make the line calls required of a center.
       The lack of aggressiveness he has displayed at guard and tackle
       would be less of a concern at center, where he would be required
       to make fewer one-on-one blocks.
       #Post#: 4027--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2011 NFL Draft
   DIR By: WshflThinking
       Date: April 27, 2011, 10:04 am
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       Thats the guy Yapper. If there is nobody there at 29 that the
       Bears like on the OLine I look for the Bears to think they are
       getting top 15 talent at 29.
       #Post#: 4040--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2011 NFL Draft
   DIR By: yapper
       Date: April 27, 2011, 11:16 am
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       --- Quote from: WshflThinking link ---
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       > Thats the guy Yapper. If there is nobody there at 29 that the
       Bears like on the OLine I look for the Bears to think they are
       getting top 15 talent at 29.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Marvin Austin has been doing and saying all the right things
       leading up to the draft.  Is it for real... that's the question.
       Seems like a guy Marinelli could potentially get his hands on
       and turn into something special (with additional mentoring by
       Peppers)...  but OTOH if the kid is inherently an underachiever
       with questionable judgment then no amount of coaching-up is
       gonna make him anything more than a 5-6 year role player at
       best.  And those guys you can get in the 4th round.
       Chris Williams at C is a bad idea. 6'6 is too tall for a Center
       and especially for a guy like Williams who has real challenges
       playing low and with leverage. Cutler would be clanging balls
       off the back of his helmet every game.
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