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Re: Green Bay sucks (4.12.11 - 9.10.15)
DIR By: packrat
Date: November 15, 2011, 6:47 pm
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Have the Packers DBs gotten into rhythm. They looked better
last night.
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Re: Green Bay sucks (4.12.11 - 9.10.15)
DIR By: packrat
Date: November 15, 2011, 6:54 pm
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Defense also played better against the run,. Peterson had 51
yards, compared with 175 in the first game.
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Re: Green Bay sucks (4.12.11 - 9.10.15)
DIR By: packrat
Date: November 15, 2011, 6:58 pm
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After watching Rodgers he puts Favre in proper perspective. He
was not that great overall. He resembles Barry Sanders to me:
made spectacular plays but couldn't make the big play many times
under pressure. Both were undisciplined.
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Re: Green Bay sucks (4.12.11 - 9.10.15)
DIR By: 46
Date: November 16, 2011, 1:04 pm
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Read where Forrest Gregg has been diagnosed with Parkinsons.
Terrible afflicton and I only wish him the best. He and Dika's
mutual loathing made for some classic games. I hope he's able
to contain it a bit.
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Re: Green Bay sucks (4.12.11 - 9.10.15)
DIR By: packrat
Date: November 16, 2011, 6:46 pm
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Green Bay - He's not a savior. Coaches realize one player can't
swoop in, cure the Green Bay Packers' pass-protection problems,
keep Aaron Rodgers upright and fix unemployment all at once.
But one day after his quarterback absorbed some painful shots
from the Minnesota Vikings, coach Mike McCarthy provided a
nugget of optimism. Left tackle Chad Clifton, who has been out
since suffering a severe hamstring injury Oct. 9 at Atlanta, may
now have a rough timetable.
"I would have to say he's not going to make it this week,
Detroit would be a push and the Giants would probably be
realistic if he stays on schedule," McCarthy said.
That date would be Dec. 4, as in three weeks from now. Until
then, Marshall Newhouse remains the starter. And against
Minnesota's Jared Allen, the NFL's sacks leader, the second-year
pro never found a groove.
Newhouse is confident and relies on quick feet to make
adjustments on the fly, but any background noise that he had
overtaken Clifton's job for good may have been squashed in Green
Bay's 45-7 win Monday night.
As sharp as Green Bay's offense has been through nine games -
rolling to a league-high 320 points in a perfect season - this
leaky offensive line is becoming troublesome. Rodgers has been
sacked 16 times in the last five games. Offensive coordinator
Joe Philbin isn't thrilled.
"I probably stood here July 28 and told you that's one of the
things we looked at in the off-season that we've got to do a
better job at. I probably said it Oct. 5 and it's Nov. 15 and
I'm still saying it," Philbin said. "That's a big thorn in our
side right now. We've got to do a better job there, because that
stuff catches up to you. You can't overcome that stuff. The more
negative plays that you have, the tougher it becomes."
There isn't one specific culprit, Philbin said. Monday night's
loose pocket was not all on Newhouse. And really, that's part of
the problem. One common denominator hasn't been identified.
"If it was one person or one guy or one problem that continually
manifested itself, I think we would have been smart enough to
figure that out and eliminate it by now," Philbin said. "But it
hasn't been. So it's been something we've got to work on. We've
got to get it right. I think our guys are committed to doing
that."
Saine watch
The last three weeks, running back James Starks has averaged 5.2
yards per carry. He's playing with more patience, more
decisiveness and quickly resembling a bona fide No. 1 back.
Teammate Ryan Grant? Not so much. Since a breakout, 92-yard game
in Week 3 at Chicago, the 28-year-old back is averaging a paltry
2.5 yards.
Yet, do not expect the pendulum to swing Starks' direction too
much in the coming weeks. He won't be toting the ball 20, 25
times per game any time soon.
As McCarthy reminded everyone Tuesday, he isn't in the business
of having one running back shoulder the load. He doesn't seek a
"1,700-yard back."
The coach did hint at one possible tweak, however. With Grant
stuck in neutral, maybe rookie Brandon Saine gets his chance
soon.
"It's important to have a tandem of running backs," McCarthy
said. "It's a long year, that's a very physically demanding
position, and even adding to that, you have Ryan and James, but
I really like the way Brandon's come on. I mean, he's been very
impressive in practice and we're going to start using him some,
hopefully as we move forward. So it's important to have all
those guys ready."
Saine played three offensive snaps in Monday's win but didn't
carry the ball. Promoted to the 53-man roster after rookie Alex
Green suffered a season-ending torn anterior cruciate ligament,
the rookie from Ohio State impressed coaches with his one-cut
style and sure hands out of the backfield. Maybe soon, he gets a
shot in the offense.
Rendered to special teams for now, his missed block at San Diego
nearly spelled disaster on one of Tim Masthay's punts. Other
than that, special teams coach Shawn Slocum said he's been
solid.
"He's learning," Slocum said. "Just because of pure reps and
missed off-season obviously. But, boy, he's playing combative
and did some real nice things last night and I think he'll help
us as we move forward."...
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Re: Green Bay sucks (4.12.11 - 9.10.15)
DIR By: packrat
Date: November 16, 2011, 6:50 pm
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Johnny Jolly: what addiction can do to a very good football
player.
HTML http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/133905368.html
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Re: Green Bay sucks (4.12.11 - 9.10.15)
DIR By: packrat
Date: November 16, 2011, 7:01 pm
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Green Bay - Every year since Green Bay Packers defensive
coordinator Dom Capers has been here, there has been a signature
game for his unit, a performance that smoothed out the rough
spots and laid the foundation for a strong finish.
It happened with a victory over Dallas in Game 9 of the 2009
season.
It happened with a victory over the New York Jets in Game 8 of
the 2010 season.
And so, after the Packers' 45-7 victory over the Minnesota
Vikings on Monday night, did it happen again?
Time will tell whether holding the Vikings to a single touchdown
was a seminal moment in the Packers' season or just an expected
outcome when an 8-0 team goes against a 2-6 team with a rookie
starting quarterback.
"I thought it was a real positive step in the right direction,"
Capers said. "I thought we played more like we're capable of
playing last night. I think it started right from the beginning.
"It's nice when Mike (McCarthy) has confidence to defer and put
you out on the field first, and you go out and respond. I
thought our guys did that. We started much faster than we did in
the past, and then we played a more consistent game."
In '09, the defense was coming off back-to-back games in which
it had given up 38 points - one of them against the Brett
Favre-quarterbacked Vikings - when it held the Cowboys to a
single touchdown. The team went on to win five straight and by
Week 12 ranked No. 1 in the league in defense.
Injuries in the secondary ultimately sank that team, but the
turnaround helped vault the Packers into the playoffs.
Last year, the Packers lost back-to-back games against
Washington and Miami and gave up 402 yards in a four-point
victory at Minnesota. The next week, the Packers went on the
road and shut out the New York Jets, kicking off a stretch in
which they held their opponent under 21 points in eight of nine
games.
They wound up riding that defense to a Super Bowl XLV victory.
On Monday night, the defense went into the game having allowed
more than 400 yards in three straight games, including 460 at
San Diego the week after the bye.
It responded by holding the Vikings to 266 yards, the
second-fewest of its eight previous games, and not giving up a
passing touchdown for only the second time this season. Even
running back Adrian Peterson, who had 175 yards rushing in the
first meeting, was held to 51 on 14 carries.
"We gave up too many points against San Diego," Capers said of
the 45-38 victory. "But the last nine games last year I think we
gave up 10.6 points a game or something like that. We kind of
found our niche.
"I think that happens with teams. You've got to modify and
adjust what you're doing to (opponents with what) you've got to
do it out there. That's what coaching's all about."
Applying that to Monday night, the difference between the
Vikings performance and others wasn't just that Capers blitzed a
lot; it was that he got a lot of players involved blitzing. The
season-ending loss of safety Nick Collins and nagging injuries
to cornerbacks Charles Woodson (knee) and Tramon Williams
(shoulder) as well as safety Morgan Burnett (broken hand) may
have affected Capers' willingness to get creative the first half
of the season.
But after the Chargers game, Woodson let him know it was time to
get back to doing what got the Packers to the Super Bowl last
year and that's what Capers did.
He blitzed the more athletic Burnett more than fellow safety
Charlie Peprah. He brought Woodson from many directions,
including a stand-up position right over the center that helped
linebacker Clay Matthews get one-on-one blocks.
And he blitzed Williams, who had not been sent on a blitz a
single time in the four games preceding the bye.
It might have been the first time Capers felt he had no
restrictions on the way he could use his starters.
"As you go along and get a feel for what you're doing well and
what you're not doing well, you try to improve the things that
you're not doing well and you go with what's working well for
you," Capers said. "Some games it works a little bit better than
others. Last night it worked.
"Now the challenge is can we go out and make it work this week
and make it work better. It's nice to see the guys go out and
play more like we want to play on defense."
This week against Tampa Bay there wouldn't seem to be any reason
not to be aggressive again. The Buccaneers rank 25th in scoring
offense and interceptions and 30th in completions of 20 or more
yards.
The following week when the Packers play at Detroit on
Thanksgiving Day, it should present a clearer picture of how
confident Capers is in his defense and whether his defense gives
him anything to be confident about. The Lions threw the ball 63
times against Chicago on Sunday and won't be afraid to test
Green Bay's pass rush and secondary inside Ford Field.
"If you go out and things aren't working so well, you try to
seek answers elsewhere," Capers said. "I don't think you just
continue to beat your head against the wall when what you're
doing isn't working. What we did worked better last night.
"We played more consistent last night. We played more like we
like to play as a Packer defense."
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Re: Green Bay sucks (4.12.11 - 9.10.15)
DIR By: packrat
Date: November 16, 2011, 7:37 pm
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..."He's big," wide receiver Jordy Nelson said of Cobb. "We know
he's a playmaker. Apparently we need to play in prime-time games
more often for him. But we know he can do. He just has to keep
doing it and stay consistent. That's the expectation now."
Offensively, the apprenticeship continues. No, Donald Driver
isn't fading away by any means, as evident by his 22-yard
back-shoulder reception. But Cobb has been taking more snaps
from the veteran. On Monday, he caught all three passes thrown
his way for 36 yards. Nelson calls Cobb a "grinder," a smart kid
that's staying quiet and fitting in.
And Cobb says he knows his place. At this moment, the return
game is where he's most dangerous.
Especially when he's angry.
"That's my job right now," he said. "Playing on a team like this
with this caliber, you have to know your role. You have to know
what your job is and what everybody's looking for you to do.
Right now, my job is the return game."...
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Re: Green Bay sucks (4.12.11 - 9.10.15)
DIR By: Grizzlybear34
Date: November 17, 2011, 6:04 am
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I am pretty impressed with what I have seen of Cobb as a
returner. He has a nice burst and good finishing speed. I hope
he never pans out as a receiver!
#Post#: 43195--------------------------------------------------
Re: Green Bay sucks (4.12.11 - 9.10.15)
DIR By: packrat
Date: November 17, 2011, 2:49 pm
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IMHO, if he stays healthy Cobb will become a #1/#2 WR. He could
also be a fit as a "wildcat" type player.
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