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       Re: Green Bay sucks (4.12.11 - 9.10.15)
   DIR By: Grizzlybear34
       Date: September 11, 2011, 7:20 am
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       That's what I have been saying also, Matthews is on HGH,
       everyone knows it.  Until they test for it, he will stay on it.
       Look at the change in all of the baseball players as soon as
       there was more testing for performance enhancing drugs.  Home
       Runs have dropped significantly, remember Pudge Rodriguez became
       Ping Rodriguez.  Matthews will become a non player if the league
       has an effective plan.
       Hopefully this will be the only time I give a Packer credit this
       season except for being humble in defeat.  The interview with
       Rodgers was great.  He attributed the explosiveness of the
       Packers offense to the lack of getting his team together.  He
       said it twice during the press conference and the reporters
       could do nothing but swallow their pens.  He absolutely nailed
       them.  Apparently, he has been raked over the coals for not
       organizing team workouts like Brees and others in the league.
       Definitely the last and loudest laugh.  He made his point.
       And after watching the Packers/Saints game, I have to agree with
       the players that all of the training camps and offseason work
       appear to be overpreparation.  They may help the young players
       or the free agents to a degree, but the offenses in that game
       looked to be in midseason form.  I was happy not to see Fabio
       flex his muscles...
       #Post#: 32382--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Green Bay sucks (4.12.11 - 9.10.15)
   DIR By: Bears4Ever
       Date: September 11, 2011, 7:51 am
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       Packers are tough, indeed.
       The offense is good, but was made to look even better by the
       truly woeful Saints D.
       If I were a Packer fan, I'd be more worried about the Packer's
       D- almost 500 yards offense given up. Again, the Saints O is
       good, but I don't think they are THAT good....
       Maybe with the short offseason the Offense's are ahead of the
       Defenses instead of the usual other way around ?
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       Re: Green Bay sucks (4.12.11 - 9.10.15)
   DIR By: Pekin
       Date: September 11, 2011, 10:07 am
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       If that would have been Cutler in that interview the reporters
       would have ripped him to shreds.  But because it is Rodgers he
       is just confident and great.
       #Post#: 32765--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Green Bay sucks (4.12.11 - 9.10.15)
   DIR By: packrat
       Date: September 12, 2011, 7:43 pm
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       Green Bay - Cullen Jenkins is gone and not soon forgotten.
       But if you thought the Green Bay Packers were not going to be
       able to replace his pass rush ability, say hello to Vic So'oto.
       The undrafted free agent will be part of a group that includes
       defensive end Mike Neal and nose tackle B.J. Raji and will be
       obliged to fill the void Jenkins left when he took his services
       to Philadelphia.
       Based on the Packers' final two preseason games, So'oto is going
       to be a player who can help their pass rush right away.
       In the final two games, he notched 2˝ sacks, two forced fumbles
       and an interception returned for a touchdown, sealing his place
       on the 53-man roster and marking him as a candidate to play
       against New Orleans in the season opener. The fact much of
       So'oto's work came against the opponents' starters says a lot
       about his legitimacy.
       "He's a beast, a young beast," veteran nose tackle Howard Green
       said. "That's what I call him, 'Young Beast.' He's just a stud.
       He's strong and he's talented and he's coachable."
       And he's also a member of the 2011 Packers, although that won't
       be official until Saturday when final cuts are made.
       So'oto would have to go out and rob a bank to blow his shot at
       making the 53-man roster and even that probably wouldn't lead
       the Packers to release him. There's more than a dozen and a half
       teams who are kicking themselves that they didn't project So'oto
       to make the adjustment from 4-3 defensive end at Brigham Young
       to 3-4 outside linebacker in the NFL.
       All it cost the Packers was a signing bonus of $8,500 to attract
       So'oto to Green Bay.
       After they watch film of the Packers' 20-19 victory over the
       Kansas City Chiefs on Thursday night at Lambeau Field, the
       others will see that So'oto dominated the game, personally
       snuffing out the Chiefs' first two drives and then later adding
       the game-winning points with a 33-yard interception return for a
       touchdown.
       His initial thoughts after the game was that he could have done
       more and that outside linebackers coach Kevin Greene was going
       to chew him out for the mistakes he made, including a technical
       error on the scoring play.
       But there's no way Greene or anyone else could have ignored the
       production the rookie had against a Chiefs team trying to get
       its No. 1 offense quality work.
       "I could have had a couple more sacks if I had gone inside
       instead of outside," So'oto said when asked what he could have
       done better. "KG is going to be very disappointed."
       Maybe in the short term he will, but in the long term Greene and
       the rest of the defensive coaches had to be elated that they had
       found a pass-rushing source they never envisioned when they
       allowed Jenkins to leave. So'oto might be able to be used right
       away in passing situations to complement Matthews, Raji and a
       healthy Neal, thereby softening the loss of the team's
       second-best pass rusher.
       "We just have to play good football and just carry out the game
       plan," Raji said. "You don't expect to replace Cullen Jenkins
       with one player, but as long as guys are playing hard and not
       hurting us (we'll be all right)."
       On Thursday, So'oto hit the trifecta with his big plays, sacking
       the quarterback on third down, stripping a running back of the
       ball and returning the interception for a touchdown. If he had
       been wearing jersey No. 52, no one would have known it wasn't
       Matthews inside the helmet.
       On the very first series of the game, he drove right tackle
       Barry Richardson backward and sacked quarterback Matt Cassel for
       a 4-yard loss. On the very next series, he showed up again, this
       time stripping the ball from 1,400-yard rusher Jamaal Charles at
       the Packers 19, snuffing out another drive.
       "I tackled him from behind and when I reached around I could
       feel the ball," So'oto said. "I just pulled it out."
       Before finishing off the game with his interception, he shared a
       sack with linebacker D.J. Smith that destroyed yet another drive
       by the Chiefs' No. 1 offense, which played into the third
       quarter.
       Then, with the Packers trailing, 16-13, with 4˝ minutes to go in
       the third, So'oto jumped quarterback Tyler Palko's pass in the
       flat to receiver Dexter McCluster and raced 33 yards to the end
       zone.
       So'oto somewhat sheepishly described the play.
       "I actually messed up," he said of allowing the tight end to get
       outside of him. "Coach is going to yell at me. In practice I
       messed that up, too. But I knew he was going to throw the ball
       to McCluster. I was hoping he would."
       The emergence of So'oto means the Packers have four quality
       outside linebackers they can use interchangeably: Matthews, Erik
       Walden, Frank Zombo and So'oto. Walden is still the starter
       because he's more versatile and less prone to mistakes, but you
       can bet defensive coordinator Dom Capers will find a way to use
       So'oto opening day against New Orleans.
       "So'oto's a big-time player," Raji said. "He's exactly what
       you're looking for."
       
       #Post#: 33190--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Green Bay sucks (4.12.11 - 9.10.15)
   DIR By: yapper
       Date: September 14, 2011, 3:38 pm
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       Man what is with the Packers not being able to keep their
       D-Linemen healthy?
  HTML http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/09/14/packers-mike-neal-has-knee-surgery/
       One less defender for the Bears to worry about in a couple of
       weeks, anyway.
       #Post#: 33400--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Green Bay sucks (4.12.11 - 9.10.15)
   DIR By: packrat
       Date: September 15, 2011, 6:07 pm
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       <b>As advertised.</b>
       Cobb Plays, Acts Beyond His Years
       
       WR Randall Cobb (Tom Hauck/Getty)  By Chris Jenkins
       The Associated Press
       Posted Sep 14, 2011
       Randall Cobb made quite a splash with two touchdowns in his NFL
       debut. Don't expect Cobb to get a big head about his big night.
       "From the moment he got here, he had a different air about him,"
       Aaron Rodgers said. "It was like Greg Jennings when Greg came in
       in 2006."
       Although it's rare for a rookie to carry himself with the quiet
       brand of confidence Randall Cobb has shown in his short time
       with Green Bay Packers, Aaron Rodgers has seen it before.
       From the first days of training camp, Rodgers says Cobb has
       reminded him of another young wide receiver who made an
       immediate impact — Greg Jennings.
       With that in mind, Rodgers isn't concerned that Cobb will let a
       two-touchdown debut on opening night go to his head.
       "From the moment he got here, he had a different air about him,"
       Rodgers said. "It was like Greg Jennings when Greg came in in
       2006. There was just something different about him. He was a
       rookie, he was respectful, but he kind of walked around and
       carried himself like a veteran without being the kind of rookie
       that you think needs to grow up a little bit. He just had that
       class about him, that maturity."
       Cobb, a second-round draft pick out of Kentucky, caught his
       first career touchdown pass in the first quarter of Thursday's
       opener, a spectacular 32-yard catch-and-run that ended with a
       dive into the end zone. He added another score in the third
       quarter, taking a kickoff back 108 yards for a touchdown. That
       tied an NFL record, and was the Packers' first touchdown on a
       kickoff return since 2000.
       Cobb's big night is a continuation of the success he had early
       in training camp and the preseason, before he missed some time
       with knee bruises. He's trying to stay humble — and yes, he
       realizes humility is not a trait found in many elite wide
       receivers.
       "Yeah, that's how a lot of guys are," Cobb said Wednesday. "But
       like I said, I'm different. I try to be my own person."
       Along those lines, Cobb acknowledged immediately after
       Thursday's game that both his scoring plays were the result of
       mistakes: He ran the wrong route on his touchdown catch and
       should have taken a touchback on his kickoff return.
       Cobb expected to hear it from his coaches.
       "I didn't get that bad of comments," Cobb said, smiling. "But at
       the same time, I know that I made mistakes. At a crucial time in
       the game if I make those mistakes and I get covered, I bust the
       whole play and I mess up a whole play. So it's very important
       that I continue to work to get better and keep learning."
       Asked earlier this week about Cobb's decision to return a kick
       eight yards deep in the end zone, Packers coach Mike McCarthy
       noted that players are graded on their assignments, decisions
       and techniques.
       The decision? A minus. The assignment? Also a minus.
       And the technique?
       "That's a hell of a technique," McCarthy said.
       Packers coaches generally want returners to take a touchback if
       the ball is more than 5 yards deep in the end zone. Cobb raised
       a few eyebrows last Thursday night when he was asked what went
       into his decision to run the kick back.
       "Just trust in God," Cobb said that night. "He told me to bring
       it out."
       Asked about that comment Wednesday, Cobb reiterated that his
       split-second decision was a function of his faith.
       "A lot of things aren't logical that He takes care of," Cobb
       said. "That wasn't a great decision to bring it out. But
       obviously I trusted in Him enough to where He still put me in a
       good position, gave me an opportunity to make a play."
       Will Cobb have any trouble balancing moments of religious
       inspiration with the wishes of his coaches?
       "My No. 1 priority is my faith," Cobb said. "I mean, that's
       always going to go above anything. But at the same time, I've
       got to stay in tune with the game plan and be smart about the
       decisions I make."
       Packers special teams coordinator Shawn Slocum doesn't foresee
       any problems.
       "That's a pretty good mind-set," Slocum said. "That's a pretty
       powerful factor."
       And Slocum joked that he has no illusions about where his
       coaching authority ends and a higher authority begins.
       "I think there's an obvious answer to that question," Slocum
       said.
       Although his mistakes led to brilliant results Thursday, Cobb
       knows he needs to firm up his grasp of the game to earn more
       playing time.
       "I'm still making mistakes," Cobb said. "Yeah, I want to be on
       the field, but the coaches aren't going to put me on the field
       if I don't know what I'm doing. As far as getting snaps, I'm a
       competitor, I want to be on the field. I want to have the
       opportunity to make plays. But that's on myself, and I've got to
       make sure I handle my business so I can have the opportunity to
       stay on the field."
       Mistakes and all, Cobb already has earned Rodgers' respect.
       "For a young kid — he just turned 21 recently — he really
       understands his place on the team and how to be a professional,"
       Rodgers said. "We're not worried about him. We've just got to
       get him more touches."
       #Post#: 34053--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Green Bay sucks (4.12.11 - 9.10.15)
   DIR By: packrat
       Date: September 19, 2011, 6:45 pm
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       <i>CHARLOTTE, N.C. — In Charles Woodson’s eyes, he lost his
       individual matchup on Sunday with Carolina Panthers receiver
       Steve Smith.
       Smith caught six passes for 156 yards, many of them against the
       Green Bay Packers star cornerbacck...</i>
       :-(
       #Post#: 34395--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Green Bay sucks (4.12.11 - 9.10.15)
   DIR By: guest118
       Date: September 21, 2011, 3:46 pm
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       Cutler's going fo 500 yards againt that shitty Peckers pass D.
       Nicks neck....so sad.
       #Post#: 34438--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Green Bay sucks (4.12.11 - 9.10.15)
   DIR By: guest77
       Date: September 21, 2011, 10:05 pm
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       Because pi$$ and puke is a ridiculous color combination.
       
       Because they are named after the act of stuffing dead animal
       meat into sausage skins.
       
       Because "The Acme Meat Packing Plant" sounds like something out
       of a Roadrunner cartoon.
       
       Because Majkowski was over the !@#$in' line.
       Because of that punk Charles Martin.
       
       Because Wanny went for two.
       
       Because Brett Favrerreaauahh knows his pharmaceuticals.
       
       Because Mark Chmurra is good with children.
       
       Because Nietzchke couldn't hold Butkus' jock.
       
       Because of the Lambeau leap.
       
       Because of the so-called frozen tundra.
       
       Because Desmond Howard won a Superbowl MVP.
       
       Because Al Michaels has become a caricature of himself due in
       large part to his man-love of Aaron Rodgersssssss.  On second
       thought, calling Michael's feelings man-love gives man-love a
       bad name.  Let's call it blatant homo-eroticism.
       
       Because there would be no Green Bay Packers today had Papa Bear
       not intervened.  (This may have been one of his few mistakes.)
       
       Because they had the greatest Quartertack in NFL history start
       for them for 17 consecutive years, and only managed one title
       during that span.
       
       Because they threw said quarterback out like yesterday's trash.
       And then they luck into another franchise QB right after that.
       
       Because we have more wins, more Hall of Famers, and a better
       head-to-head record.
       
       Because the Lombardi Trophy should have been named after George
       Halas.
       Because they are the Packers and we are the Bears ... it's what
       we do!
       
       And, the best reason of all, because they're the Packers.
       
       Puck the Fackers!!!
       #Post#: 34441--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Green Bay sucks (4.12.11 - 9.10.15)
   DIR By: Pekin
       Date: September 21, 2011, 10:47 pm
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       Because the Lombardi Trophy should have been named after George
       Halas.
       This and the Charles Martin body slam on McMahon after the play
       was dead costing us a second SuperBowl and maybe many more is
       why I hate them.  That and I have met many, many obnoxious
       asshole Packer fans.  I have met a few that are good guys but
       they are outnumbered.
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