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       #Post#: 1635--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Around the NFL (4.12.11 - 9.10.15)
   DIR By: WshflThinking
       Date: April 18, 2011, 5:43 am
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       I think the worthy OTs will be gone by #29 as that article
       stated and if there was one left he would have warts as Pompei
       explained. Furthermore Angelo hasnt had any success drafting DTs
       in the third round. So he has done plenty of hitting and missing
       as far as OTs and DTs go. His track record doesnt inspire
       confidence.
       #Post#: 1733--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Around the NFL (4.12.11 - 9.10.15)
   DIR By: yapper
       Date: April 18, 2011, 6:05 pm
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       --- Quote from: packrat link ---
       >
       > Check out the failure rate for frist round QB draftees:
       >
       > Posted by Mike Florio on April 16, 2011, 10:24 AM EDT
       > Greg Cosell’s observation that teams with needs at quarterback
       could reach for quarterbacks in round one of the draft has
       caused us to wonder whether the raw number of quarterbacks taken
       in round one could eclipse the all-time record for first-round
       quarterbacks.
       >
       > The high-water mark came in 1983, when six quarterbacks became
       first-round picks:  John Elway, Todd Blackledge, Jim Kelly, Tony
       Eason, Ken O’Brien, and Dan Marino (pictured).
       >
       > In 28 years since then, only one class had as many as five.
       In 1999, Tim Couch, Donovan McNabb, Akili Smith, Daunte
       Culpepper, and Cade McNown exited the board in round one.  All
       five were picked in the first 12 selections, with the next
       quarterback — Shaun King — drafted 38 spots later.
       >
       > Four quarterbacks were drafted in the first round of three
       other drafts.  In 1987, Vinny Testaverde, Kelly Stouffer, Chris
       Miller, and Jim Harbaugh were picked in the first round.  In
       2003, it was Carson Palmer, Byron Leftwich, Kyle Boller, and Rex
       Grossman.  Most recently, Eli Manning, Philip Rivers, Ben
       Roethlisberger, and J.P. Losman entered the league via round one
       in 2004.
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       >
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       Man... you look at that list post the Marino/Kelly class and out
       of all those names and years you've really got about 5 guys that
       made their teams significantly  better for a long period  of
       time (Big Ben, McNabb, Rivers, Carson Palmer and Eli Manning if
       you're being generous). And out of all those names exactly two
       have won SuperBowls (Big Ben and Manning).
       This is why I've always been super skeptical about taking QBs in
       the 1st round or at least the Top 10.  The risk/reward is just
       so heavily skewed toward failure.
       #Post#: 1737--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Around the NFL (4.12.11 - 9.10.15)
   DIR By: yapper
       Date: April 18, 2011, 6:34 pm
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       Bears may dodge a bullet on the Tampa game scheduled in London:
  HTML http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/04/18/london-game-will-be-moved-to-tampa-if-lockout-doesnt-end-by-august-1/
       #Post#: 1869--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Around the NFL (4.12.11 - 9.10.15)
   DIR By: Jackiejokeman
       Date: April 18, 2011, 10:41 pm
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       --- Quote from: yapper link ---
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       > Bears may dodge a bullet on the Tampa game scheduled in
       London:
       >
       >
  HTML http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/04/18/london-game-will-be-moved-to-tampa-if-lockout-doesnt-end-by-august-1/
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Well lets see what happens.
       Glazers have an interest in being in England...partial owners
       of Manchester United.
       BEARS may be just along for the ride to promote NFL
       football...and yacht buddies.
       #Post#: 1890--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Around the NFL (4.12.11 - 9.10.15)
   DIR By: WshflThinking
       Date: April 19, 2011, 12:33 am
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       I really hope they play that game in Tampa. I already have been
       there in that stadium. Would love to go watch the Bears play
       there
       #Post#: 1945--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Around the NFL (4.12.11 - 9.10.15)
   DIR By: guest77
       Date: April 19, 2011, 11:45 am
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       Most of the Bucs games I have been to in Tampa were against the
       Bears when they were in the old NFC Central.  Many times the
       Bears fans outnumbered the Bucs fans significantly.  RJ is a fun
       stadium with that Pirate Ship and the fans are pretty laid back.
       #Post#: 1969--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Around the NFL (4.12.11 - 9.10.15)
   DIR By: WshflThinking
       Date: April 19, 2011, 1:21 pm
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       It was enjoyable and the weather was good too.
       #Post#: 1990--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Around the NFL (4.12.11 - 9.10.15)
   DIR By: yapper
       Date: April 19, 2011, 1:58 pm
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       If the game happens in London it says it's scheduled for October
       22.
       So I assume if it doesn't happen in London it will be in Tampa
       the same date.  That's a really nice time of year to be down
       there. A lot better than early September, for sure.
       #Post#: 2007--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Around the NFL (4.12.11 - 9.10.15)
   DIR By: WshflThinking
       Date: April 19, 2011, 2:52 pm
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       Absolutely, but with the breeze off the ocean it isnt that bad
       #Post#: 2102--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Around the NFL (4.12.11 - 9.10.15)
   DIR By: Grizzlybear34
       Date: April 20, 2011, 5:22 am
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       It can stil be pretty brutal late October, but I'd take my
       chances then over the guarantee fry fest in early September.
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