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       #Post#: 5319--------------------------------------------------
       Re: NFC North (04.12.11 - 09.10.15)
   DIR By: navigator
       Date: May 3, 2011, 7:09 am
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       I think that both the Pats and the Packers take QBs often in the
       draft.
       #Post#: 5324--------------------------------------------------
       Re: NFC North (04.12.11 - 09.10.15)
   DIR By: yapper
       Date: May 3, 2011, 8:17 am
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       All I can say about Enderle is I hope the Bears did a lot more
       homework on him than they did on LeFevour.
       If LeFevour wasn't good enough to be our 3rd QB right out of the
       gate (thereby keeping him off the PS), then we shouldn't have
       drafted him.  After the way Angelo bungled that whole situation
       with LeFevour they are almost obligated to keep Enderle on the
       active roster this year or the outcry over yet another thrown
       away draft pick will be severe.
       #Post#: 5331--------------------------------------------------
       Re: NFC North (04.12.11 - 09.10.15)
   DIR By: boogie
       Date: May 3, 2011, 8:55 am
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       Story in the Trib today about how he is exactly the kind of
       player that Martz likes.  He developed Warner and Bulger, blah
       blah blah.  Sounds like propaganda to talk the fans off the
       ledge...
       #Post#: 5343--------------------------------------------------
       Re: NFC North (04.12.11 - 09.10.15)
   DIR By: dallasbear
       Date: May 3, 2011, 9:58 am
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       LeFevour was only put on the PS because of the injury to Hanie -
       they didn't want to keep 4 QBs on the roster.  Bears might have
       been able to hide him if he hadn't performed so well in the
       final preseason game.  He had a nice TD pass to another player
       that we tried to stash on the PS too.
       And then the Vikings later swiped Iglesias too.
       As for LeFevour, if he was so good, would the Bengals have
       drafted Andy Dalton in the 2nd round?
       #Post#: 5364--------------------------------------------------
       Re: NFC North (04.12.11 - 09.10.15)
   DIR By: WshflThinking
       Date: May 3, 2011, 12:15 pm
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       Bengals needed a starter. LeFevor wasnt ready for that
       #Post#: 5367--------------------------------------------------
       Re: NFC North (04.12.11 - 09.10.15)
   DIR By: yapper
       Date: May 3, 2011, 12:32 pm
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       We would have been better off going into 2010 with Cutler, Hanie
       and LeFevour as our 3 rather than Todd Collins.
       Seriously...  that guy was worse than worthless. I've seen a
       whole lot of godawful QBs in my years of watching the Bears but
       Collins was easily in the Top (Bottom?) 5 of Bear QBs all-time
       for overall suc-kage.
       Not to mention, then we could have used this year's 5th rounder
       on another OL or a big WR.
       #Post#: 5369--------------------------------------------------
       Re: NFC North (04.12.11 - 09.10.15)
   DIR By: vj
       Date: May 3, 2011, 12:46 pm
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       LeFevour, Collins, and Enderle and Fat Manu are all about Martz.
       I think Martz has a good handle of his playbook after his
       several years of coaching and can call a good game.  But IMO his
       evaluation skills are at best overrated and at worst as bad as
       Lovie and Angelo.  His reputation still hangs on the excellent
       talent he was spoiled with during the Greatest Show on Turf over
       a decade ago and he still believes he can resurrect those glory
       days in Chicago.
       Seriously, does anyone believe that Martz will be on the Bears
       staff long enough to develop Enderle into a competent backup or
       trade bait.  I don't.  It was not necessary to waste a draft
       pick, even a 5th, on a QB with so many glaring immediate needs
       and only 5 picks to address them.
       #Post#: 5406--------------------------------------------------
       Re: NFC North (04.12.11 - 09.10.15)
   DIR By: Phill23
       Date: May 3, 2011, 4:43 pm
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       --- Quote from: yapper link ---
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       > We would have been better off going into 2010 with Cutler,
       Hanie and LeFevour as our 3 rather than Todd Collins.
       --- End Quote ---
       Actually they would be the same with both scenarios.  They had a
       chance to get Bulger last off season and they blew it.  Cutler,
       Bulger, and Hanie would've been much MUCH better than the other
       2 scenarios you brought up.
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       > Not to mention, then we could have used this year's 5th
       rounder on another OL or a big WR.
       --- End Quote ---
       I don't have a problem with the picks.  You brought up another
       OL.  I think they are either going to pick up one via free
       agency or stick with what they have.  Put Carimi at LT.  Don't
       move to the right.
       Then you brought up drafting a "big" WR in the 5th round.  I'm
       starting to think they'll stick with the guy from the CFL and/or
       keep Aromashadu and see if he can come with it this year.  I
       don't have an issue with the picks at all.
       #Post#: 5572--------------------------------------------------
       Re: NFC North (04.12.11 - 09.10.15)
   DIR By: yapper
       Date: May 4, 2011, 9:56 am
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       I would be beyond shocked if Aromashadu was back with us for
       this season.
       The coaches gave every indication last year that they want
       nothing to do with him.
       #Post#: 5576--------------------------------------------------
       Re: NFC North (04.12.11 - 09.10.15)
   DIR By: dallasbear
       Date: May 4, 2011, 10:40 am
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       Yep, Aromashodu is gone.
       Martz failure to utilize him, his pass heavy play calling and
       his faith in Todd Collins have been my biggest concerns with
       Martz' judgment.
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