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#Post#: 2812--------------------------------------------------
Re: NFC North (04.12.11 - 09.10.15)
By: yapper Date: April 22, 2011, 9:47 am
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Yeah, when you get benched in favor of Rex Grossman you know the
honeymoon is definitely over.
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Re: NFC North (04.12.11 - 09.10.15)
By: Pekin Date: April 22, 2011, 10:24 am
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It is pretty common knowledge he is done for in Washington. The
redskins will not pay him all that money to sit on the bench.
Most suspect he will be cut. The Redskins might get a really
low round draft pick for him but no one is going to give them a
whole lot when everyone knows they are going to cut him sooner
rather then later.
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Re: NFC North (04.12.11 - 09.10.15)
By: boogie Date: April 22, 2011, 10:47 am
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Maybe Rex gives Shanny the best chance to win? LOL
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Re: NFC North (04.12.11 - 09.10.15)
By: packrat Date: April 22, 2011, 12:39 pm
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[quote]Fictional agent and strong arm twister Jack Bauer
wouldn't have been able to pry information out of Green Bay
general manager Ted Thompson, so you can imagine what it was
like for the Packers beat reporters Thursday at Thompson's
pre-draft news conference in Lambeau.
Basic, logical questions.
Kindly, nonspecific responses.
The draft is where the seventh-year GM has built the foundation
for the Super Bowl champions, scooping up Aaron Rodgers,
uncovering Nick Collins, discovering Greg Jennings and nabbing
Clay Matthews.
Thompson's reputation for protecting his draft strategy is now
legendary - just as the draft's popularity has exploded in the
media with mock drafts, grades and speculation.
"There's a lot of interest in the draft, it's great," said
Thompson. "But, quite frankly, most of the people that are
commenting on it don't know anything about what they're talking
about, because I'm supposed to know a lot and I don't know all
the stuff those guys know."...[/quote]
Love that last paragraph. Draft gurus spout off all sorts of
critcal data and closely rate players by comparing an 8.2 to an
8.3 and in the final analysis, one guy is great, as advertised,
and the other is bust.
Makes good reading and makes a living for the writers of this
stuff but really not much truth in it.
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Re: NFC North (04.12.11 - 09.10.15)
By: yapper Date: April 22, 2011, 12:52 pm
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[quote author=packrat link=topic=42.msg2857#msg2857
date=1303493972]
Love that last paragraph. Draft gurus spout off all sorts of
critcal data and closely rate players by comparing an 8.2 to an
8.3 and in the final analysis, one guy is great, as advertised,
and the other is bust.
Makes good reading and makes a living for the writers of this
stuff but really not much truth in it.
[/quote]
Agreed, and another thing you can never really know is how much
of a draft pick's success or failure is environmentally related.
For example, Cedric Benson busted spectacularly for the Bears
but has had a very solid career with the Bengals. Conversely, I
think it is very safe to assume that if Tom Brady had been
drafted by the Bears, Browns or Cardinals he probably would have
been out of the league within 3 years.
An example this year is the top 2 WR prospects (AJ Green and
Julio Jones) who on paper have very little difference between
them. It's entirely possible that one of them will be a star and
one of them will bust. It's also possible that if they had each
gone to the other's team, the situation would have been
reversed.
Ultimately, a solid roster depends on your personnel people
picking the right players and your coaches developing them. On
both of those counts, clearly, the Bears have not met league
standard.
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Re: NFC North (04.12.11 - 09.10.15)
By: packrat Date: April 22, 2011, 6:40 pm
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All good points, yapper.
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Re: NFC North (04.12.11 - 09.10.15)
By: Jackiejokeman Date: April 22, 2011, 8:29 pm
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[quote author=wmljohn link=topic=42.msg2801#msg2801
date=1303481813]
Nobody can sign McNabb. They will have to work a trade for him.
Washington signed him to an extension the week after they
benched him.
Yeah. The week after they benched him for Grossman.
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What do you think his trade value is today?
Under the circumstances I could see him going for a third or
fourth.
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Re: NFC North (04.12.11 - 09.10.15)
By: Pekin Date: April 22, 2011, 9:49 pm
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Only if a team is desperate. I think you would have it pegged
about right if everyone did not know the Redskins were going to
dump him. If a team thinks they can get him for no draft picks
they will wait. However my guess is there will be some bidding
since so many teams need a QB (Thank God we have Cutler) .
Maybe a 5th round pick that will go higher based on McNabbs
stats or number of starts perhaps.
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Re: NFC North (04.12.11 - 09.10.15)
By: guest77 Date: April 23, 2011, 12:52 am
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[quote author=yapper link=topic=42.msg2859#msg2859
date=1303494745]
Agreed, and another thing you can never really know is how much
of a draft pick's success or failure is environmentally related.
For example, Cedric Benson busted spectacularly for the Bears
but has had a very solid career with the Bengals. Conversely, I
think it is very safe to assume that if Tom Brady had been
drafted by the Bears, Browns or Cardinals he probably would have
been out of the league within 3 years.
An example this year is the top 2 WR prospects (AJ Green and
Julio Jones) who on paper have very little difference between
them. It's entirely possible that one of them will be a star and
one of them will bust. It's also possible that if they had each
gone to the other's team, the situation would have been
reversed.
Ultimately, a solid roster depends on your personnel people
picking the right players and your coaches developing them. On
both of those counts, clearly, the Bears have not met league
standard.
[/quote]
Totally agree there....we also haven't developed any
depth...look at a Packers last year....all those injuries and
they had the depth to win SB. Teams all pick from the same
talent pool. Bears may or may not have drafted solid prospects
in the past, but if they did, they didn't develop what they had
very well. That may be changing with Tice and Marinelli, but in
prior years of the Lovie-regime has not always been the case.
#Post#: 3069--------------------------------------------------
Re: NFC North (04.12.11 - 09.10.15)
By: packrat Date: April 23, 2011, 11:04 am
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The rap on McNabb seems to be his poor work habits.
I you sign him you need to sign another QB as his
replacement-in-training and McNabb might not be a good example
for him.
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