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       #Post#: 261232--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2016 NFL Draft
   DIR By: WshflThinking
       Date: February 20, 2016, 10:26 pm
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       --- Quote from: davebear link ---
       >
       > We'll trade back.
       >
       > Pace found what, four starters after the first round last
       year, all good players.
       >
       > It is said interior DL potential starters run into round 3
       this year.
       >
       > The Cowboys will take a defensive player and when the Bears
       pick there will be one QB left on the board, probably Paxton
       Lynch.
       >
       > The Boys will offer the Bears their 2 and 3 this year and #1
       next year.  The Bears will take it and use their sixth rounders
       to trade the Dallas #2 back up into the late first round.
       >
       > They'll draft someone like Emannuel Ogbah or Sheldon Rankins,
       and still have 3 more picks in the top 100.
       >
       > Look at last year... Langford, Grasu and Amos were off the
       radar players who outplayed most of the other prospects rated
       higher.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       You have a link or is just your hope and prayer? I hope you are
       making this up.
       #Post#: 261233--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2016 NFL Draft
   DIR By: davebear
       Date: February 21, 2016, 12:32 am
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       Just saying its the kind of scenario that is a possibility.
       #Post#: 261234--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2016 NFL Draft
   DIR By: WshflThinking
       Date: February 21, 2016, 6:38 am
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       I would hope Pace has more sense than that. I could see him
       dropping down a few in the 1st but not completely out of the
       first like Joki suggested. I think if Pace scores in FA then the
       threat to drop down diminishes because he wont be so desperate
       for talent
       #Post#: 261245--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2016 NFL Draft
   DIR By: joki13
       Date: February 21, 2016, 1:47 pm
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       wshfl - I don't ever recall suggesting trading out of the 1st
       round. The only suggestion I remember is if one of the top 3 QBs
       are there we might trade down with the Rams for their #15 and
       one of their 2nd rounders. I would have to think long and hard
       to trade out of the top half of the 1st.Maybe with Houston for
       their #1 this year and next.
       #Post#: 261246--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2016 NFL Draft
   DIR By: WshflThinking
       Date: February 21, 2016, 2:28 pm
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       Yes Joki that's what you said , dropping down a [B]few
       spots[/B], not out of the 1st like Davebear. No problem. Maybe I
       didn't fraise my previous statement as I meant it. Pardon for
       the misinterpretation if there was one. Its my error.
       #Post#: 261251--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2016 NFL Draft
   DIR By: joki13
       Date: February 21, 2016, 3:17 pm
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       Alright here's a scenario to chew on;
       Muhammad Wilkerson(DE) most likely will be franchised.Trade the
       rights to Martellus Bennett (TE) or a franchised Alshon Jeffrey
       (WR) even up. Sign Danny Trevathan (ILB),Trumaine Johnson (CB)
       and Cordy Glenn (OT) thru free agency.
       Wilkerson (DE)(Jets) - $15 mil.for the first year.I'm not gonna
       speculate on long term deals.
       T.Johnson (CB)(Rams) - $10 mil.
       C.Glenn (OT)(Bills) - $12 mil.
       D.Trevathan (ILB)(Broncos) - $7 mil.  That's a first year total
       of $ 44 million for other team's free agents.
       I would like to see us resign players like ;
       Zack Miller (TE) - $ 3 mil.
       Jarvis Jenkins (DE) - $4 mil.
       Mitch Unrein (DT) - $1 mil.
       Now on to the draft.I'm not going to speculate on possible
       trades or players that most likely will not be there when it's
       our turn.(For instance Hargreaves at #11)I'm trying to be
       realistic.
       1) Shaq Lawson (DE/OLB)
       2) Will Fuller (WR)
       3) Kyle Murphy (OT)
       4) Kevin Hogan (QB)
       5) Joe Schobert (OLB)
       6) Evan Boehm (C)
       6) D.J.White (CB)
       6) Kolby Listenbee (WR)
       7) Jake McGee (TE)
       #Post#: 261254--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2016 NFL Draft
   DIR By: WshflThinking
       Date: February 21, 2016, 3:37 pm
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       I could settle for Shaq Lawson if nothing better is available at
       #11.  And I could see a slight trade down too if the right deal
       is available and still get Shaq Lawson. Again I wouldn't
       subscribe to a QB at #11. Also just to throw something out for
       something to talk about, how about those 2 safety FAs from the
       Bengals? We sure need safetys.
       #Post#: 261259--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2016 NFL Draft
   DIR By: boogie
       Date: February 21, 2016, 5:22 pm
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       And a WR in the second?
       #Post#: 261260--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2016 NFL Draft
   DIR By: method
       Date: February 21, 2016, 6:05 pm
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       --- Quote from: joki13 link ---
       >
       > Alright here's a scenario to chew on;
       >
       > Muhammad Wilkerson(DE) most likely will be franchised.Trade
       the rights to Martellus Bennett (TE) or a franchised Alshon
       Jeffrey (WR) even up. Sign Danny Trevathan (ILB),Trumaine
       Johnson (CB) and Cordy Glenn (OT) thru free agency.
       > Wilkerson (DE)(Jets) - $15 mil.for the first year.I'm not
       gonna speculate on long term deals.
       > T.Johnson (CB)(Rams) - $10 mil.
       > C.Glenn (OT)(Bills) - $12 mil.
       > D.Trevathan (ILB)(Broncos) - $7 mil.  That's a first year
       total of $ 44 million for other team's free agents.
       >
       > I would like to see us resign players like ;
       > Zack Miller (TE) - $ 3 mil.
       > Jarvis Jenkins (DE) - $4 mil.
       > Mitch Unrein (DT) - $1 mil.
       >
       > Now on to the draft.I'm not going to speculate on possible
       trades or players that most likely will not be there when it's
       our turn.(For instance Hargreaves at #11)I'm trying to be
       realistic.
       >
       > 1) Shaq Lawson (DE/OLB)
       > 2) Will Fuller (WR)
       > 3) Kyle Murphy (OT)
       > 4) Kevin Hogan (QB)
       > 5) Joe Schobert (OLB)
       > 6) Evan Boehm (C)
       > 6) D.J.White (CB)
       > 6) Kolby Listenbee (WR)
       > 7) Jake McGee (TE)
       >
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Why would the Jets trade a premier dline player for either of
       those players?
       #Post#: 261278--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2016 NFL Draft
   DIR By: davebear
       Date: February 21, 2016, 10:59 pm
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       If you get rid of Alshon have to sign a veteran WR.
       Kevin Smith and another rookie will drive Cutler crazy.
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