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       #Post#: 8390--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2011 Chicago Bears
   DIR By: stelz
       Date: May 17, 2011, 5:29 pm
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       I'm saying that Cutler and the line, whatever their individual
       contributions to the "pressure" and sacks are going to look
       worse in the Martz offense.  Jay getting hit more than any other
       QB is on Martz, the line, and himself.  He would get hit less,
       everything esle being equal, in a more conventional offense.
       #Post#: 8397--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2011 Chicago Bears
   DIR By: BearHit
       Date: May 17, 2011, 5:53 pm
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       Rodgers was getting KILLED for awhile (was that 2009?) - he got
       better - his line got better - his coaches got better...
       "What doesn't kill ya makes ya stronger"
       #Post#: 8428--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2011 Chicago Bears
   DIR By: packrat
       Date: May 17, 2011, 7:06 pm
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       <i>Cutler was under the most pressure of any QB in the league
       last year.
       And still managed to make it to the NFCC</i>
       All other factors aside, bottom line is that he produced.  The
       Bears played every bit as well against GB as  Pitt did.
       #Post#: 8449--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2011 Chicago Bears
   DIR By: Pekin
       Date: May 17, 2011, 7:42 pm
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       The Bears actually played better.  In fact if Cutler didn't get
       hurt the Bears would have won that game.  If Rodgers instead of
       Cutler got hurt it would have been a blow out by the Bears.
       
       #Post#: 8597--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2011 Chicago Bears
   DIR By: Grizzlybear34
       Date: May 18, 2011, 5:43 am
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       I think anyone with eyes could see the pressure Cutler was under
       a good portion of the year.  He took a brutal beating and I
       think most of it was the scheme early on, combined with the dial
       a player selection at the oline during the first half of the
       season.  Against the average teams of the league, we fared well
       later but when the good defenses came in the pressure was still
       there.  But it was better (grizz readjusts his rosey glasses)
       :)
       #Post#: 8598--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2011 Chicago Bears
   DIR By: WshflThinking
       Date: May 18, 2011, 6:17 am
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       Glad to see the Griz wake up from his hibernation.
       #Post#: 8610--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2011 Chicago Bears
   DIR By: yapper
       Date: May 18, 2011, 8:24 am
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       --- Quote from: Pekin link ---
       >
       > The Bears actually played better.  In fact if Cutler didn't
       get hurt the Bears would have won that game.  If Rodgers instead
       of Cutler got hurt it would have been a blow out by the Bears.
       >
       >
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I don't know about that.  Cutler was off that day even before he
       got hurt. Missed at least one easy throw to Hester early that
       would have been a big gain if not a TD. IMO it just wasn't gonna
       be his day regardless.
       #Post#: 8658--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2011 Chicago Bears
   DIR By: Pekin
       Date: May 18, 2011, 11:49 am
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       The Packers are always tough on D at the beginning of games.  It
       takes awhile to figure out what they are doing.  By the time
       Martz had it figured out Cutler was already out of the game.
       The Bears had some success on offense with Hanie in the second
       half.
       #Post#: 8698--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2011 Chicago Bears
   DIR By: yapper
       Date: May 18, 2011, 2:50 pm
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       --- Quote from: Pekin link ---
       >
       > The Packers are always tough on D at the beginning of games.
       It takes awhile to figure out what they are doing.
       --- End Quote ---
       Seriously though, that game was the 3rd time in the season we
       had played them...  and the 2nd time in 3 weeks. Notwithstanding
       that Dom Capers is the best DC in the game, the element of
       surprise when it came to the Packers D should have been slim to
       none.
       #Post#: 8702--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2011 Chicago Bears
   DIR By: boogie
       Date: May 18, 2011, 3:08 pm
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       I still think Cutler was hurt very early in that game.  He just
       wasnt putting it together.  Even if he could have come back, I
       doubt he would have done much.
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