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       #Post#: 6349--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2011 Chicago Bears
   DIR By: Grizzlybear34
       Date: May 8, 2011, 7:33 am
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       Pretty sure that was Bortz, Hilgenberg was always a center.
       Also, don't forget Big Cat a few years later
       #Post#: 6470--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2011 Chicago Bears
   DIR By: dallasbear
       Date: May 8, 2011, 6:51 pm
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       There's a couple FA centers that didn't get drafted, one of
       which is Jake Kilpatrick of TCU.
       Rich Gosselin came up with this list of the highest-rated
       players at each position on his board who were not drafted:
       QB Pat Devlin, Delaware
       HB Derrick Locke, Kentucky
       FB Henry Hynoski, Pitt
       WR Dane Sanzenbacher, Ohio State
       TE Schuylar Oordt, Northern Iowa
       T  Willie Smith, East Carolina
       G  Ray Dominguez, Arkansas (Gosselin thinks he's the best of the
       undrafteds).
       C  Kris O’Dowd, Southern Cal
       DE Ugo Chinasa, Oklahoma State
       DT Ian Williams, Notre Dame
       OLB Jeremiah Hunter, Iowa
       MLB Nick Bellore, Central Michigan
       CB Niles Brinkley, Wisconsin
       S  DeAndre McDaniel, Clemson
       K Adi Kunalic, Nebraska
       P  Chas Henry, Florida
       #Post#: 6525--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2011 Chicago Bears
   DIR By: davebear
       Date: May 8, 2011, 10:46 pm
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       The centers for Oregon State (Linnenkohl?) and Oregon are both
       worth a look
       #Post#: 6526--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2011 Chicago Bears
   DIR By: Pekin
       Date: May 8, 2011, 11:04 pm
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       No rookie center is going to be able to do the job especially
       with out a training camp.  They have to re-sign Kruetz and get
       someone on the roster this year to learn.
       #Post#: 6527--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2011 Chicago Bears
   DIR By: dallasbear
       Date: May 8, 2011, 11:49 pm
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       I don't think Jay Hilgenberg was drafted.  And I also don't
       think he started his first year either.
       With all the unsigned FAs on the team and only 5 rookies a
       couple rookie FAs might make the team this year.
       #Post#: 6528--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2011 Chicago Bears
   DIR By: Jackiejokeman
       Date: May 9, 2011, 12:16 am
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       Jake Kilpatrick TCU won the Rimington Award as the nations best
       Center in 2010.
       How come he wasnt drafted?
       #Post#: 6534--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2011 Chicago Bears
   DIR By: WshflThinking
       Date: May 9, 2011, 8:27 am
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       --- Quote from: davebear link ---
       >
       > The centers for Oregon State (Linnenkohl?) and Oregon are both
       worth a look
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       See thats what I am saying. Somebody will materialize that was
       undrafted. I am sure Tice is on the road checking guys out as we
       speak.
       #Post#: 6536--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2011 Chicago Bears
   DIR By: yapper
       Date: May 9, 2011, 8:32 am
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       Interesting question on Kirkpatrick (TCU C) as I recall his name
       being linked to the Bears in at least a couple of mock drafts.
       Near as I can figure, this was not considered a terribly strong
       draft for centers, and it may be that there just weren't that
       many teams considering that position as a need for this year.
       When they looked at need vs. value they figured they were better
       off sticking with what they had and spending their draft picks
       elsewhere.
       #Post#: 6537--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2011 Chicago Bears
   DIR By: yapper
       Date: May 9, 2011, 8:34 am
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       The C from USC was highly rated a couple of years ago but his
       medical record is a mile long.
       #Post#: 6543--------------------------------------------------
       Re: 2011 Chicago Bears
   DIR By: dallasbear
       Date: May 9, 2011, 9:35 am
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       Word was that Kirkpatrick was small at 6-1 7/8 300 (he's bigger
       than Kreutz) and had short arms.
       He'll be invited to somebody's camp.
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