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Re: Other Sports
DIR By: davebear
Date: October 14, 2017, 7:27 pm
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The rule is very simple. Bat strikes the catcher your out and
no one advances. At least accordig to MLB Network no other
factors changed it.
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Re: Other Sports
DIR By: wmljohn
Date: October 15, 2017, 7:16 am
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> This is 6.01(a)(1):
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> 6.01 Interference, Obstruction, and Catcher Collisions
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> (a) (7.09) Batter or Runner Interference
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> It is interference by a batter or a runner when:
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> (1) After a third strike that is not caught by the catcher,
the batter-runner clearly hinders the catcher in his attempt to
field the ball. Such batter-runner is out, the ball is dead, and
all other runners return to the bases they occupied at the time
of the pitch;
--- End Quote ---
The Umpire stated that the passed ball had already happened and
the catcher missed the ball before the bat struck his helmet.
After the bat struck his helmet there was no hesitation or delay
of the catcher turning around, retrieving the ball and making a
throw to first. There was clearly no hindering the catcher to
attempt to field the ball. Had the catcher not immediately
fielded the ball and fallen to the ground because the bat hit
him then the batter would have been called out. But since the
graze did not affect the catchers ability to field the ball the
play stands.
That is how simple it is.
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Re: Other Sports
DIR By: Dave23
Date: October 15, 2017, 9:44 am
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Please call Harold Reynolds and help his dumb ass understand...
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Re: Other Sports
DIR By: davebear
Date: October 15, 2017, 12:38 pm
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That's the wrong rule.
There's another rule about bat hitting catcher
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Re: Other Sports
DIR By: davebear
Date: October 15, 2017, 12:52 pm
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You left out the last paragraph of the rule:
Rules 6.03(a)(3) and (4) Comment (Rule 6.06(c) and (d)
Comment): If the batter interferes with the catcher, the plate
umpire shall call “interference.” The batter is out and the ball
dead. No player may advance on such interference (offensive
interference) and all runners must return to the last base that
was, in the judgment of the umpire, legally touched at the time
of the interference.
If, however, the catcher makes a play and the runner
attempting to advance is put out, it is to be assumed there was
no actual interference and that runner is out—not the batter.
Any other runners on the base at the time may advance as the
ruling is that there is no actual interference if a runner is
retired. In that case play proceeds just as if no violation had
been called.
If a batter strikes at a ball and misses and swings so hard
he carries the bat all the way around and, in the umpire’s
judgment, unintentionally hits the catcher or the ball in back
of him on the backswing, it shall be called a strike only (not
interference). The ball will be dead, however, and no runner
shall advance on the play.
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Re: Other Sports
DIR By: chifaninva
Date: October 16, 2017, 5:00 am
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We just played the 2nd game of the NLCS and you guys are still
talking about one play that happened in the last series.
The Cubs better get their bats going or we're fukked..
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Re: Other Sports
DIR By: Grizzlybear34
Date: October 16, 2017, 5:18 am
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You can't keep making the pitchng throw perfect games to win.
Nobody is hitting
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Re: Other Sports
DIR By: wmljohn
Date: October 17, 2017, 9:52 am
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--- Quote ---
> You left out the last paragraph of the rule:
>
> Rules 6.03(a)(3) and (4) Comment (Rule 6.06(c) and (d)
Comment): If the batter interferes with the catcher, the plate
umpire shall call “interference.” The batter is out and the ball
dead. No player may advance on such interference (offensive
interference) and all runners must return to the last base that
was, in the judgment of the umpire, legally touched at the time
of the interference.
>
> If, however, the catcher makes a play and the runner
attempting to advance is put out, it is to be assumed there was
no actual interference and that runner is out—not the batter.
Any other runners on the base at the time may advance as the
ruling is that there is no actual interference if a runner is
retired. In that case play proceeds just as if no violation had
been called.
>
> If a batter strikes at a ball and misses and swings so hard he
carries the bat all the way around and, in the umpire’s
judgment, unintentionally hits the catcher or the ball in back
of him on the backswing, it shall be called a strike only (not
interference). The ball will be dead, however, and no runner
shall advance on the play.
--- End Quote ---
davebear - Lets get the first thing cleared up. 6.03 is not a
paragraph of rule 6.01. 6.03 is a totally different rule. The
umpire stated that since there was a passed ball before the bat
hit the helmet that rule 6.03 was not in play. Even the opening
sentence of that rule, "If the batter interferes with the
catcher, the plate umpire shall call “interference.” That is
the reason why the umpire went to rule 6.01 because the Batter
did not interfere with the catchers ability to catch the pitch.
It was ruled a passed ball or wild pitch. Now that at bat is
over so the bat striking the mask falls under 6.01 which is for
Interference, Obstruction, and Catcher Collisions.
Jerry Layne's quote about the play, “Backswing interference is a
play where a guy is stealing or there’s a play being made a
runner hindering the catch,” Layne said afterward. “It was a
wild pitch and went past him. That is no longer in that
particular description, in my judgment. In my judgment, the
passed ball changed the whole rule around to where, in my
judgment, it had nothing to do with everything. Therefore, it
didn’t have any effect on it. In my judgment.”
[…]
“When the ball gets past him, all right, in my judgment he
didn’t have any more opportunity after he had a chance to field
the ball,” Layne said. “There was no further play that could
have been made on it. The graze of the helmet didn’t have
anything to do, in my judgment, with anything at all, with that
particular play. I understand, it’s pretty much my judgment. I
got together and found everybody was in agreement. That’s what
we went with.”
I still don't see why it is so hard to figure out. There are
two rules. One was not in play because it was a passed
ball/wild pitch before the bat hit the mask.
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Re: Other Sports
DIR By: Grizzlybear34
Date: October 17, 2017, 10:08 am
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Gotta score some runs tonight... Can't keep the pitchers in
these high leverage situations. Yankees did it last night. We
need to wake up the bats
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Re: Other Sports
DIR By: wmljohn
Date: October 17, 2017, 10:17 am
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If the Cubs lose tonight it is over. They need to win to have
any chance at this thing.
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