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       #Post#: 250927--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Around the NFL
       By: Sportster Date: October 27, 2015, 4:08 pm
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       I actually like the fact those players were let go. Made me
       reminisce when we were good, though. Olsen, Tillman, Peppers
       were all impact players at one time. We have very few of those
       left anymore. Allen was a gimme. He wasn't doing jack and I
       think he's pretty much done regardless where he's at. Peppers
       was a jerk. He had some left and held it back more than likely
       like was said...because Lovie was let go... Tillman just
       couldn't stay healthy.
       #Post#: 250962--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Around the NFL
       By: otto105 Date: October 28, 2015, 8:57 am
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       Peppers just needed real a football organization to play for
       with quality coaches and players.
       Winning also helps the desire.
       #Post#: 250965--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Around the NFL
       By: dallasbear Date: October 28, 2015, 9:32 am
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       I'd bet Butkus wasn't on too many winning teams - nobody every
       questioned his desire.
       #Post#: 251488--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Around the NFL
       By: WshflThinking Date: November 2, 2015, 6:45 pm
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       Broncos trade for 49ers tight end Vernon Davis, give up draft
       picks.
  HTML http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/25361569/broncos-trade-for-49ers-tight-end-vernon-davis-in-exchange-for-draft-picks
       #Post#: 251526--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Around the NFL
       By: davebear Date: November 3, 2015, 8:10 am
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       they basically gave him away
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       Re: Around the NFL
       By: dallasbear Date: November 3, 2015, 8:51 am
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       Statistically he's had a huge drop off since 2013.  Is that due
       to the problems at QB for the 49ers or that Davis is now 31?
       Change of scenery should help him but when guys get around that
       30 year old mark (including Brandon Marshall) the high draft
       picks are harder to pry away for them.
       #Post#: 251705--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Around the NFL
       By: boogie Date: November 5, 2015, 1:38 pm
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       Wow the Lions just fired their president and GM.
       #Post#: 251708--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Around the NFL
       By: Sportster Date: November 5, 2015, 3:51 pm
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       Well they are underperforming badly, so it's hard to fault the
       owner for doing it. You have the talent and yet are playing
       worse than the Bears. Something had to be done...
       #Post#: 251711--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Around the NFL
       By: navigator Date: November 5, 2015, 6:56 pm
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       funny thing is the GM is supposed to draft talent, and they
       have. They just can't seem to win. I guess they keep hiring the
       wrong coaches.
       #Post#: 251712--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Around the NFL
       By: chifaninva Date: November 5, 2015, 7:04 pm
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       Did the hiring of Caldwell inspire anyone?
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