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       #Post#: 250865--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Around the NFL
       By: Grizzlybear34 Date: October 26, 2015, 12:37 pm
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       [quote author=chifaninva link=topic=349.msg250854#msg250854
       date=1445817252]
       I know, if I'm not mistaken, they were up 24 to nothing, and
       lost... WTF.. I told my wife, typical Lovie team..
       [/quote]
       My wife is a Bucs fan.  We watched them blow the lead, but only
       to be up by 3 points, the ball inside Washington's 10 yard line
       and they have just gotten stuffed on 3rd down.  The commentators
       start saying it looks like Smith is leaving them in on 4th down,
       and I said finally Lovie has learned.  2:40 left to go and they
       are going to go for it on 4th down, up by 3.  Then Lovie changes
       his mind to kick the FG.  I told my wife they are going to
       regret that decision.  Too much time on the clock and now you
       are forcing Washington to be aggressive and push the ball down
       the field.
       In that situation, I would rather go for it on 4th down, and if
       you get the touchdown great, if you get stopped you have
       Washington starting  inside their own 10 with 2 minutes to go.
       They will likely play it more conservatively going for the tie.
       Sure enough, they kick the FG and then watch the Redskins drive
       right down the field and score with 24 seconds to go.  I was
       almost "Bears" pissed off at that result.  I knew it was going
       to happen.
       If I was up by 1 or 2 points, I would have kicked, but to be up
       3 and a TD can still beat you.  Just a poor call.
       
       #Post#: 250866--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Around the NFL
       By: Grizzlybear34 Date: October 26, 2015, 12:40 pm
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       [quote author=Sportster link=topic=349.msg250855#msg250855
       date=1445821659]
       Sitting here watching the Panthers vs Eagles. Rivera has that
       team playing solidly. And I'm noticing there's a former
       Bear...there's another former Bear....and another former
       Bear....  Makes it hard to stomach the mess the Bears are in.
       Will this team ever get it together?
       [/quote]
       You mean all of the Bears that we didn't want on the team
       anymore?  Yah...
       Let's look back see who wanted Olson gone, and who said Peanut
       was done, etc...  I will say I wanted the Bears to keep Tillman,
       but was meh on Olson.  So many fumbles with the Bears, but he
       had a pretty good chemistry with Cutler.  Who we also want gone,
       I know.  I actually like Bennett over Olson, though not sure why
       he is dropping so many recently
       #Post#: 250870--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Around the NFL
       By: Sportster Date: October 26, 2015, 2:00 pm
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       If they didn't go elsewhere and play better it wouldn't be a
       issue....Peppers, anyone?....
       #Post#: 250872--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Around the NFL
       By: dallasbear Date: October 26, 2015, 2:23 pm
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       Allen is playing in a 4-3 scheme and most likely surrounded by
       better personnel.
       Olsen is playing about the same as he did with the Bears - prior
       regime just didn't want to pay him when his rookie contract
       ended. I'll take  Bennett any day.
       Tillman couldn't stay healthy with the Bears the last 2 years -
       they supposedly drafted his replacement in Fuller and didn't
       want to pay Tillman who also was a FA.
       Peppers 2014 season was similar to what he had with the Bears
       for about 4 seasons prior - however this year he's having a
       great season.
       #Post#: 250881--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Around the NFL
       By: davebear Date: October 26, 2015, 6:13 pm
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       Peppers and Allen gone before their time???
       Take a look at the way the patriots do business then tell me
       those were bad moves.
       #Post#: 250883--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Around the NFL
       By: boogie Date: October 26, 2015, 6:32 pm
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       Peppers still had some gas left in the tank, but he just wasn't
       motivated/trying.  That is what pisses me off about him.  Allen,
       meh, he is running on fumes.
       #Post#: 250885--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Around the NFL
       By: chifaninva Date: October 26, 2015, 7:01 pm
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       Allen's a 4-3 guy..
       #Post#: 250913--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Around the NFL
       By: dallasbear Date: October 27, 2015, 9:32 am
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       Peppers still had some gas left in the tank, but he just wasn't
       motivated/trying.  That is what pisses me off about him.
       Agreed.  I can't recall the specifics but in 2013 MORE than half
       of his games he had a single tackle or less.  He had that rep in
       Carolina of not playing with motivation but we never saw it
       until 2013 with the Bears.
       #Post#: 250915--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Around the NFL
       By: chifaninva Date: October 27, 2015, 9:43 am
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       I was going to say the same thing. He had that reputation in
       Carolina. I believe he didn't care for Lovie being let go..
       #Post#: 250922--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Around the NFL
       By: 46 Date: October 27, 2015, 11:46 am
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       Peppers mailed it in the last year as a Bear for sure. Hope in
       likes the money he made . Foot seems fine now doesn't it?
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