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       Re: Around the NFL
       By: Sportster Date: September 23, 2015, 8:43 pm
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       They have a very good defense, but the injuries have been
       unsettling. I'd have given them as good a shot this year as any
       team when they were healthy. Now it's a deal of they're doing
       well, but when will the next axe fall?? Who's going down next?
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       Re: Around the NFL
       By: WshflThinking Date: September 23, 2015, 9:03 pm
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       I am not sold on their defense. They have given up way too many
       points to acclaim their defense good.
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       Re: Around the NFL
       By: 46 Date: September 24, 2015, 10:14 am
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       That would make sense given "luck of the Irish" and all that.
       However, you look at that pass td in the ala miss game and
       realize that other teams are lucky too. Hope the domers do well
       and the cubs and
       the Bears but am not going to put much stock in it.
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       Re: Around the NFL
       By: wmljohn Date: September 25, 2015, 8:24 am
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       [quote]John Fox's coaching record in the NFL without Peyton
       Manning as QB?
       81-81
       Wayne Fontes anyone?[/quote] - Otter
       Records With and Without A Quarterback: Aaron Rodgers Edition
       by CHASE STUART on DECEMBER 14, 2013
       Green Bay started the season 5-2 and seemed on its way to
       another playoff berth. But in the first quarter of the team’s
       eighth game, Aaron Rodgers broke his collarbone. The Packers
       lost that game (technically on Rodgers’ ledger as the starter),
       and have struggled ever since. In his stead, Seneca Wallace went
       0-1, Scott Tolzien went 0-1-1, and then Matt Flynn got a chance
       to lose on Thanksgiving against the Lions before salvaging a win
       against the Falcons last Sunday.
       Unsurprisingly, Green Bay is much worse without Rodgers. Using
       his .625 winning percentage as a starter this year, we might
       presume that the Packers would have won 3.125 out of the team’s
       five games that he’s missed. Instead, Green Bay has won 1.5 out
       of five games; that means Rodgers would have provided 1.625 Wins
       Above the Other QBs on the roster. (If we did not count the
       Bears game as a Rodgers game, then Rodgers would have provided
       2.79 Wins Above the Other QBs.) Rodgers has been ruled out for
       the Packers’ pivotal week 15 showdown with the Cowboys; a loss
       there would bring Rodgers’ value up to 2.25 Wins Above the Other
       Green Bay QBs.
       Where does that rank all time? The biggest discrepancy belongs
       to the 2002 Rams. The Rams started 0-4 under reigning NFL AP MVP
       Kurt Warner, and then lost the team’s next game when Jamie
       Martin started in relief of an injured Warner. For the sixth
       game, the team turned to Marc Bulger, who led the 0-5 team on a
       five game winning streak before suffering a finger injury just
       as the starting quarterback was ready to return. Warner started
       games 11 and 12, but another injury forced Martin started game
       13; St. Louis lost all three games. Bulger then returned and won
       his 14th start. At that point in the year, St. Louis was 6-0
       under Bulger and 0-8 under everyone else. In game 15 against
       Seattle, Bulger was hurt on the St. Louis’ fourth play from
       scrimmage; Martin came in and the team lost 30-10. The final
       game of the year was a meaningless one and started by Scott
       Covington, although Martin took most of the snaps in a victory
       over the 49ers.
       All told, St. Louis went 6-1 in Bulger starts (including the
       Seahawks game), while the other Rams quarterbacks posted a 1-8
       record. Since we would project a 1-8 team to win just 0.78 out
       of 7 games, Bulger is given credit for being 5.22 Wins Above the
       Other QBs for the team.
       The table below shows all quarterbacks from 1950 to 2013 to
       produce at least 2 Wins Above the Other QBs for their team. The
       formula to calculate WAOQBs is simply the difference between the
       winning percentages with and without the starting quarterback
       multiplied by the number of starts by the quarterback or by the
       other quarterbacks on the team, whichever number is smaller.
       [quote]They were talking on the radio today how none of the ball
       clubs are developing their backup QB's. They were talking how
       the NFL as a whole needs to do a better job...[/quote] - Chifan
       [quote]Scott Tolzien and Brett Hundley are in good
       hands.[/quote] - Otter
       [quote]In his stead, Seneca Wallace went 0-1, Scott Tolzien went
       0-1-1, and then Matt Flynn got a chance to lose on Thanksgiving
       against the Lions before salvaging a win against the Falcons
       last Sunday.[/quote]
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       Re: Around the NFL
       By: wmljohn Date: September 25, 2015, 8:29 am
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       Re: Around the NFL
       By: otto105 Date: September 25, 2015, 9:35 am
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       johnbill
       A couple of things for context.
       1) Seneca Wallace sucked and was out of GB after the season.
       2) Scott Tolzien was out of football when GB picked him up. He
       was not ready to be inserted as starter and it showed. Since
       then GB's coaching staff has coached him up and in 2015 had a
       very good preseason.
       3) Matt Flynn benefited greatly from the coaching up at GB.
       Both of our backup QB's could step in today and produce better
       results than the back up status in 2013.
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       Re: Around the NFL
       By: chifaninva Date: September 25, 2015, 3:17 pm
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       [quote author=WshflThinking link=topic=349.msg244645#msg244645
       date=1443058901]
       While ND has been successful I haven't been satisfied they are
       unbeatable. To me they have been very "lucky".
       [/quote]
       UVA should've beaten them..
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       Re: Around the NFL
       By: WshflThinking Date: September 25, 2015, 5:02 pm
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       I felt that way too
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       Re: Around the NFL
       By: Jackiejokeman Date: September 25, 2015, 5:44 pm
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       I like it when we fuck things up.
       THAT'S CHICAGO BEARS !!
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       Re: Around the NFL
       By: packrat Date: September 25, 2015, 9:06 pm
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