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       #Post#: 257203--------------------------------------------------
       Re: BBFFL 2015
       By: Jackiejokeman Date: December 17, 2015, 9:20 am
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       What made me scamper off to the waiver wire every week to
       replace drafted players
       were how they were affected by other players injury's/ playing,
       not on my team.  >:(
       TE Coby Fleener is useless without Andrew Luck.
       WR Malcom Floyd had a Phillip Rivers year.
       RB Isaiah Crowell is replaced by Duke Johnson ...
       Ryan Matthews is going to start ... not start ... start ... not
       start ... all in the first hour before gameday.
       WR Torry Smith never panned out because of Kapernick ...
       TE Larry Donnell & QB Josh McCown head to I.R.
       Etc. etc. etc.
       I think I picked up Manzeil twice and dropped him twice and the
       same with Rawls.
       You get em they dont play ... you cut em they play.  :-[
       So you go get em back again only to see they don't play again.
       YAAHHHHH !!! Egads!
       #Post#: 257295--------------------------------------------------
       Re: BBFFL 2015
       By: Grizzlybear34 Date: December 18, 2015, 5:23 am
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       Rawls was a nice pick up for me JJ!   ;D
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       Re: BBFFL 2015
       By: Jackiejokeman Date: December 18, 2015, 5:27 pm
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       [font=Verdana][/font][quote author=Grizzlybear34
       link=topic=348.msg257295#msg257295
       date=1450437824][font=Verdana][/font]Rawls was a nice pick up
       for me JJ!   ;D
       [/quote]
       Yeah I wanted him back for the third time but you got him.  :-X
       #Post#: 257353--------------------------------------------------
       Re: BBFFL 2015
       By: wmljohn Date: December 18, 2015, 6:16 pm
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       D23 - I don't know.  I didn't check.  The tie breakers are built
       into the system it calculates them.
       I assume since it was a 4 way tie they used head to head records
       which broke down like this...
       Mighty Smurfs against others = Gamunu 0-0, TOS 1-0, Pekin 0-0,
       total record 1-0 =100winning%
       Gamunu against others - TOS 1-0, Pekin 1-0 Mighty Smurfs 0-0,
       total record 2-0 =100winning%
       TOS against others = Pekin 1-0, Might Smurfs 0-1, Gamunu 0-1,
       total record 1-2 =33winning%
       Pekin against others = Mighty Smurfs 0-0, TOS 0-1, Gamunu 0-1
       total record 0-3 =0winning%
       FWIW I think the NFL does the same thing among teams with tie
       records that are not in the same division with the head to head
       tie breakers.
       #Post#: 257362--------------------------------------------------
       Re: BBFFL 2015
       By: wmljohn Date: December 18, 2015, 6:53 pm
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       From the league details page for tie breakers for standings...
       [quote]Standings Tiebreaker
       in this order: Winning Percentage, Head to Head Record, Division
       Record, Total Points, Points Against (Schedule
       Difficulty).[/quote]
       Winning % for all four was same
       Head to Head Record among all teams is what I just posted.
       Division record would have been next Gamunu and TOS would have
       still been tied.
       Total points TOS would have it 1915-1781
       Based on that I would say it was the head to head records that
       they used to break the tie.  If they passed that one up and the
       next one wouldn't have broken the tie between Gamumu and TOS
       then the fourth tie breaker would have gone to TOS.
       Therefore it was the second tie breaker that set the standings.
       Head to Head records between the teams tied.
       #Post#: 257373--------------------------------------------------
       Re: BBFFL 2015
       By: Dave23 Date: December 18, 2015, 8:05 pm
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       I just don't think it should use head to head if there's more
       than 2 teams. Otherwise, a team that went 1-3 would get in over
       a team unlucky enough to have played anyone they were tied with
       (0-0). We may want to change this, if it can be done easily...
       #Post#: 257408--------------------------------------------------
       Re: BBFFL 2015
       By: wmljohn Date: December 19, 2015, 10:09 am
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       The CBS system runs the tie breakers.
       It is the same in the NFL.  There has to be some kind of record
       between the tied teams.  If one team didn't play any of the
       others it can not be used and it moves on to the next criteria.
       #Post#: 257409--------------------------------------------------
       Re: BBFFL 2015
       By: wmljohn Date: December 19, 2015, 10:21 am
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       From nfl.com...
       TO BREAK A TIE FOR THE WILD-CARD TEAM
       If it is necessary to break ties to determine the two Wild-Card
       clubs from each conference, the following steps will be taken.
       1.If the tied clubs are from the same division, apply division
       tie breaker.
       2.If the tied clubs are from different divisions, apply the
       following steps.
       Two Clubs
       1.Head-to-head, if applicable.
       2.Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the
       conference.
       3.Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games, minimum of
       four.
       4.Strength of victory.
       5.Strength of schedule.
       6.Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored
       and points allowed.
       7.Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and
       points allowed.
       8.Best net points in conference games.
       9.Best net points in all games.
       10.Best net touchdowns in all games.
       11.Coin toss.
       Three or More Clubs
       (Note: If two clubs remain tied after third or other clubs are
       eliminated, tie breaker reverts to step 1 of applicable two-club
       format.)
       1.Apply division tie breaker to eliminate all but the highest
       ranked club in each division prior to proceeding to step 2. The
       original seeding within a division upon application of the
       division tie breaker remains the same for all subsequent
       applications of the procedure that are necessary to identify the
       two Wild-Card participants.
       2.Head-to-head sweep. (Applicable only if one club has defeated
       each of the others or if one club has lost to each of the
       others.)
       3.Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the
       conference.
       4.Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games, minimum of
       four.
       5.Strength of victory.
       6.Strength of schedule.
       7.Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored
       and points allowed.
       8.Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and
       points allowed.
       9.Best net points in conference games.
       10.Best net points in all games.
       11.Best net touchdowns in all games.
       12.Coin toss
       When the first Wild-Card team has been identified, the procedure
       is repeated to name the second Wild-Card, i.e., eliminate all
       but the highest-ranked club in each division prior to proceeding
       to step 2. In situations where three or more teams from the same
       division are involved in the procedure, the original seeding of
       the teams remains the same for subsequent applications of the
       tie breaker if the top-ranked team in that division qualifies
       for a Wild-Card berth.
       OTHER TIE-BREAKING PROCEDURES
       1.Only one club advances to the playoffs in any tie-breaking
       step. Remaining tied clubs revert to the first step of the
       applicable division or Wild Card tie-breakers. As an example, if
       two clubs remain tied in any tie-breaker step after all other
       clubs have been eliminated, the procedure reverts to Step 1 of
       the two-club format to determine the winner. When one club wins
       the tiebreaker, all other clubs revert to Step 1 of the
       applicable two-club or three-club format.
       2.In comparing records against common opponents among tied
       teams, the best won-lost-tied percentage is the deciding factor,
       since teams may have played an unequal number of games.
       3.To determine home-field priority among division-titlists,
       apply Wild Card tie-breakers.
       4.To determine home-field priority for Wild Card qualifiers,
       apply division tie-breakers (if teams are from the same
       division) or Wild Card tiebreakers (if teams are from different
       divisions).
       5.To determine the best combined ranking among conference teams
       in points scored and points allowed, add a team's position in
       the two categories, and the lowest score wins. For example, if
       Team A is first in points scored and second in points allowed,
       its combined ranking is "3." If Team B is third in points scored
       and first in points allowed, its combined ranking is "4." Team A
       then wins the tiebreaker. If two teams are tied for a position,
       both teams are awarded the ranking as if they held it solely.
       For example, if Team A and Team B are tied for first in points
       scored, each team is assigned a ranking of "1" in that category,
       and if Team C is third, its ranking will still be "3."
       #Post#: 257410--------------------------------------------------
       Re: BBFFL 2015
       By: wmljohn Date: December 19, 2015, 10:24 am
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       I got out of the business of trying to figure out tie breakers.
       That is why we pay the site to do it.   ;D
       #Post#: 257443--------------------------------------------------
       Re: BBFFL 2015
       By: Jackiejokeman Date: December 20, 2015, 2:12 pm
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       I figure the guys that do it for the NFL get paid good money to
       keep from going insane.
       They probably use the money for a quiet rest at a resort after
       the season where only birdies are chirping.  :D
       
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